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Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Stark » January 17th, 2018, 10:10 am

Woot. Got my sexy tabby
https://i.imgur.com/W6UeVFW.jpg
Along with the achievement a little earlier this morning (hasn't updated)
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/illidan/êvë/achievements/pet-battles/battle

I plan on making a guide (rough draft/work in progress can be viewed here: http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=1229 ... id=2546262 )

I'd like to thank Blizzard for including this achievement. I've been begging for this on the WoW Pet Battle Forums and WarcraftPet forums for years viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16768&p=133801&sid=0810ed182579d9978715c20dd9bf300d#p133767
I have always thought that achievements like this could stir up the monotony of the meta and hope to see many try for this. Most fun I've had in a while PvP Pet wise!

I'm going to sleep now. G'night peeps!
-Eve

Edit: Finished the guide
http://www.wowhead.com/guide=5828/famil ... ment-guide
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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Gráinne » January 17th, 2018, 11:02 am

Big Congratulations! :D

That's probably World First, too.

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Stark » January 17th, 2018, 6:26 pm

Gráinne wrote:Big Congratulations! :D

That's probably World First, too.
Thanks :P I couldn't say for sure, but I didn't see anyone trying for it (no 3 family teams) until I was over half way through. Had to trudge through quite a few meta teams.

Biscuit wrote:I’m not a fan of this achievement going live the same time as pet week.
Makes the “accomplishment” far too easy IMO.
It certainly helped me get some free wins(I'd estimate 5% approx), but "easy" is not a term I'd use to describe it, especially when you have to use beast and critter only teams (and no, you can't cheese it with rabbits, because one teroclaw, heal comp or anything with damage mitigation shell shield for example, destroys you.)

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Rosqo » January 17th, 2018, 6:43 pm

Biscuit wrote:I’m not a fan of this achievement going live the same time as pet week.
Makes the “accomplishment” far too easy IMO.


At least during pet week it lessens the large amount of rng in grinding the wins.

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Stark » January 17th, 2018, 11:35 pm

Rosqo wrote:
Biscuit wrote:I’m not a fan of this achievement going live the same time as pet week.
Makes the “accomplishment” far too easy IMO.


At least during pet week it lessens the large amount of rng in grinding the wins.
and I got 20 ultimate training stones for doing 5 wins turning in the weekly, logging on an alt account, rinse and repeat.

I think the best time to do this achieve is by Saturday. By then you'll get the inexperienced players wrapping things up and more players trying to get this tabard.

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Rosqo » January 18th, 2018, 2:47 am

If you’re doing this even against one other person trying for it there’s a big element of Rock Paper Scissors on match ups unfortunately. It’s actually a little more frustrating than I predicted as you can queue up into instant flees.

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Stark » January 18th, 2018, 5:17 am

Rosqo wrote:If you’re doing this even against one other person trying for it there’s a big element of Rock Paper Scissors on match ups unfortunately. It’s actually a little more frustrating than I predicted as you can queue up into instant flees.
yes this was super annoying for the last few families as there were very few on at like 4am. I was trying to get through flying and kept getting a magic user so I decided to change and knock off the dragonkin family instead ;) ;)

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Nagini » January 18th, 2018, 9:24 am

I think its nice they've waited for pet week. Some of these families would definetly be undoable if i que'd up into anything i'd see normally. undead, flier, mech were no issue, but some of the others definetly rely on good match-ups sometimes.

I hope it remains this way, though. I'd like to see some diverse teams next week too!

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Stark » January 19th, 2018, 9:32 am

Nagini wrote:I think its nice they've waited for pet week. Some of these families would definetly be undoable if i que'd up into anything i'd see normally. undead, flier, mech were no issue, but some of the others definetly rely on good match-ups sometimes.

I hope it remains this way, though. I'd like to see some diverse teams next week too!
for sure. I did get a bunch of meta teams but still managed to win because they didn't play well. And ironically I think it's also because I was running strange comps and pets newer players aren't used to!

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Harpooha » January 21st, 2018, 2:40 am

Finally got mine tonight. Ran into a lot more family brawler teams the last couple days than I did the first 2 days. It was an odd mix of the Usual Suspects and oddball teams. A few glorious wins and some embarrassing defeats. All in all, it was fun.

Surprise MVP - Brightpaw. Prowl + Arcane Dash = Instant death. I have to admit someone in the queue taught that lesson the hard way. But it helped my magic team immensely.

Disappointing family - Dragons. I never really felt I had a solid team throughout. I was always mixing and matching teams and felt lucky to complete it.

Feels Bad moment - I ran into someone trying to field a Critter team. They had a decent comp, just weren't really executing well. After beating them 3-4 times, I queued up with my own Critter team to show them that the Frostfur Rat should go first to throw up the shield. It was obvious they learned since that's what they did the next time I faced them.

There is so much content that is trivial. We either go to some website or the forums for a guide and follow instructions. This was fun for me because there's no way you can script this and no guide really works. Nice to actually PLAY the game for once rather than go through someone else's motions.

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Ajababee » January 21st, 2018, 6:46 pm

Got mine 2 days ago.
Some families very easy : Humans 10 wins /0 losts . Undead 10/2 . Meca 10/3
Some not very hard : Magic 10/5 . Aquatic 10/6 . Critters 10/8 . Drakes 10/8 . Elems 10/5 .
And the hardest for me : Beasts 10/18 and Flying 10/11

Anyway, fun time ! Need more (and better rewards).

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Drudatz » February 7th, 2018, 9:10 am

Biscuit wrote:I’m not a fan of this achievement going live the same time as pet week.
Makes the “accomplishment” far too easy IMO.

yep that was a mistake I think so, too. but on the upside I have my tabard so who am I to complain :lol:

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Stark » April 3rd, 2018, 4:05 pm

I completed a guide on the achievement if anyone's interested. It's complete, but doesn't have links to the pets, something I plan to do in the future.

http://www.wowhead.com/guide=5828/famil ... ment-guide

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Badpathing » April 9th, 2018, 11:44 am

Not to throw shade on the accomplishment, as I know how it feels to finish this, but how could you know you are the server first?

I see posts like this frequently (claiming server first, region first, etc) and honestly would like to know how this data is derived?
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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Rosqo » April 9th, 2018, 12:02 pm

Badpathing wrote:Not to throw shade on the accomplishment, as I know how it feels to finish this, but how could you know you are the server first?

I see posts like this frequently (claiming server first, region first, etc) and honestly would like to know how this data is derived?

You actually get an achievement for getting some things first on your server this is how people know. Whether this achievement rewards a server first I don’t know.

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Stark » April 12th, 2018, 10:29 am

Badpathing wrote:Not to throw shade on the accomplishment, as I know how it feels to finish this, but how could you know you are the server first?

I see posts like this frequently (claiming server first, region first, etc) and honestly would like to know how this data is derived?


I went in with pre-made teams and grinded this start to finish with better than expected success the second it went live. I had already completed over 50% of the achievement requirement (and I started with the more difficult teams) before I saw people begin using three pets of the same family (which were undeads). I feel I could be potentially be in the running for world first US (but EU got the update first right?).

To answer your question, I'm not certain nor are any others unless they have a world first achievement. I'm just incredibly confident I secured at least the server first, but will retract my claim if anyone from Illidan-US can provide a link with the achievement from the same first day. But yes, I can't say with certainty.

Biscuit wrote:Nice guide, Eve!

The only thing that I don’t agree with is recommending players to immediately forfeit if they get a Beast vs Mech match-up (for example). Those encounters aren’t always in your opponent’s favor and can certainly be overcome.
Other than that, good stuff. I hope people find it useful.


Thanks! I hope so as well.

It's a fair argument. I just feel you're fighting a losing battle and some rock vs paper match ups are worse than others (if you're going up against an Elemental Team with mechs you're getting creamed 9 times out of ten for example) and even though you can overcome, it's more time efficient to take the loss and find a new opponent that's more plausible to overcome.
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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Rosqo » April 12th, 2018, 12:05 pm

Oh Stark I totally forgot after replying to that world first guy there’s a couple of things that need tweaking stuff like recommending an s/s scalded basilisk that should probably be altered.

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Re: Server First - Family Brawler

Postby Stark » April 15th, 2018, 11:34 am

Rosqo wrote:Oh Stark I totally forgot after replying to that world first guy there’s a couple of things that need tweaking stuff like recommending an s/s scalded basilisk that should probably be altered.
Ah my mistake. I meant H/S. I made the update and gave ya credit in the changelog. Thanks for your input!

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