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Post by Pikafido » December 13th, 2018, 11:11 am

I can't mention it enough, but Xu-Fu's has the best strategies so far.

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Post by Killerkarl » December 13th, 2018, 1:15 pm

Couldn't agree more. But I have run across a few that just don't work and it is still missing a strat for a few fights.

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Re: Family Battler

Post by FuxieDK » December 15th, 2018, 4:46 pm

Need a strategy for Kwint/Elemental..

The two strats on Xu-Fu is either RNG to the extreme or Breed dependant...

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Post by Sellys » December 16th, 2018, 8:58 pm

FuxieDK wrote:Need a strategy for Kwint/Elemental..
I'm having trouble thinking up something that MIGHT work, nevermind something that actually will. I guess you need a lot of stuns/swaps reset the deep bite counter but it's still pretty fubar.

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Re: Family Battler

Post by Gilneas » December 16th, 2018, 9:54 pm

FuxieDK wrote:The two strats on Xu-Fu is either RNG to the extreme or Breed dependant...
So they're basically like any strategy for Kwint? 8-)

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Re: Family Battler

Post by FuxieDK » December 18th, 2018, 3:25 am

Gilneas wrote:
FuxieDK wrote:The two strats on Xu-Fu is either RNG to the extreme or Breed dependant...
So they're basically like any strategy for Kwint? 8-)
Nah.. 8 of them are pretty straight forward.. Only Aqua was somewhat RNG too, but not too bad..

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Post by Gráinne » December 18th, 2018, 7:17 am

OK, so I've started this (late, I know) and am in no rush to get through it. I'll do some of the easy families while a quest is up that I was going to do anyway, maybe a few more, and leave myself with the hard ones as a treat for later.

Back in Legion I made Basic [Family] teams on general PvP principles, and wrangled my way through with those.

I'm not feeling especially motivated around the simple stuff now, so I'm throwing together a few unthinking cheese teams that mostly work on most battles, without having to set something up specifically for every one. If you have a lot of pets, and dupes, do you have some generic teams like this?

Dragons: 3 Nexus Whelplings. Throw in a Conflag Dragonhawk or two against mechs. Lots of other possibilities if needed - EPW, NFD.

Mechanicals: 3 Iron Starlettes. May throw in a Bling if I find a need. I'm thinking Rogue Azerite and Captured Evil will be a problem, when I get to them.

Magic: 2 Hyjal Wisps with Blast, dodge, Wish, and a third magic pet chosen for the battle. S/S Arcane Gorger is possible. Also something with Arcane Storm and/or Surge of Power, depending on the case.

Aquatic: P/P Emperor Crab, Puddle Terror to mitigate flyers with Sunlight and Nature's Ward, otherwise a second Crab or Crawdad, P/P Fen Crab for the Rip/Blood nuke, though Spineclaw with the heal might be better now I think of it.

Elemental: 2 Autumnal Sproutlings with Fist/Heal/Whatever. Azeriti packs a serious punch with Crystal Overload -> Azerite Spike. You can get very clever with Elementals if you need to, but mostly you don't need to.

Undead: My trusty Blighted Squirrels that I've loved since Mists come into their own here, with Woodchipper / Crouch / Stampede. Just as in PvP, the racial is a big bonus.

Flyers: Three Ikkys with Black Claw / Flock. Or a Foulfeather. Anything with Flock, really. Darkness is not what it was, but the Warden's Owl still has some juice, and Darkness is worth trying. If that doesn't work, then we have to think about Teroclaws, Moths, Bloodbeak or similar Rain Dance/Noc Strike combo.

Beasts: Three Zandalaris with Black Claw / Hunting Party. Shinchomper's Aura of Gonk is hilarious; just don't bring it out until Gonk is ready. Thaumaturgical Piglet is your answer to flyers.

Humanoid: The hardest family for me to find an unthinking team. Idols are possible, rolling over everything, but slow. Rotten Little Helper does a lot of damage. Squirky and Terky bring interesting resources, but require thought and planning.

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Re: Family Battler

Post by FuxieDK » December 19th, 2018, 6:09 am

If anyone finds a truly generic Kwint/Elemental strategy that works, please shout!!

I have an ugly hole in my FFH-addon.. It's the only fight I cannot do.

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Post by Uduwudu » December 24th, 2018, 8:52 am

Pikafido wrote:I can't mention it enough, but Xu-Fu's has the best strategies so far.

https://www.wow-petguide.com/?m=Home
Have to admit that I was impressed when I did my first 3 rounds of the Celestial Tournament to get Xu-Fu (now, what the heck? Which battles am I gonna use him?), and the fights were flawless ... and the procedure is detailed and IMPORTANT.

I think I only had one buggaboo, and it didn't matter as the other pet could finish it off, but all in all, it was fairly well written and clear as a bell!

I'm still ticklish about doing the other dungeons, but want to do the other 3 pets in the Celestial Tournament when my lazy ways get off its ...

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Re: Family Battler

Post by Pikafido » January 8th, 2019, 3:14 pm

FuxieDK wrote:
December 19th, 2018, 6:09 am
If anyone finds a truly generic Kwint/Elemental strategy that works, please shout!!

I have an ugly hole in my FFH-addon.. It's the only fight I cannot do.
I've done it today with the latest add to Xu-fu's guide.

https://www.wow-petguide.com/index.php?Strategy=4046

took me some tries but i got after about 5-6 times.

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Re: Family Battler

Post by Minivivi » January 9th, 2019, 8:56 pm

Please consider donating to Xu Fu's site. A dollar or five <g> would go a long way. I have no connection with the owner but have used the site daily for years. It is a blessing for pet collectors. Just think about it.

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Re: Family Battler

Post by FuxieDK » January 11th, 2019, 2:37 pm

Pikafido wrote:
January 8th, 2019, 3:14 pm
FuxieDK wrote:
December 19th, 2018, 6:09 am
If anyone finds a truly generic Kwint/Elemental strategy that works, please shout!!

I have an ugly hole in my FFH-addon.. It's the only fight I cannot do.
I've done it today with the latest add to Xu-fu's guide.

https://www.wow-petguide.com/index.php?Strategy=4046

took me some tries but i got after about 5-6 times.
19 bandages AND 3 "normal" heals, and I finally got it..

It's way too much RNG for my taste..

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Re: Family Battler

Post by Minivivi » January 13th, 2019, 4:02 pm

I used the first two pets and substituted the Ruby Droplet 112 for the Blazehound. Kept failing with the hound but I got it first try with the Ruby Droplet. Could heal myself with drain blood, hide from his maw’s big attack, and acid touch helped heal, too. Finished with 3 hp but it worked for me.
Pray to the RNG god.
This was my 97th attempt at the Kwint Elemental fight.

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Re: Family Battler

Post by Uduwudu » January 14th, 2019, 8:29 am

FuxieDK wrote:
December 19th, 2018, 6:09 am
If anyone finds a truly generic Kwint/Elemental strategy that works, please shout!!

I have an ugly hole in my FFH-addon.. It's the only fight I cannot do.
Weird ... Wowhead is full of ideas and combinations, none of which I have been able to use and make work ... most of them have really poor and bad procedures, with a couple of them wasting a big hit, on a dive, or invis, instead of using something else when that happens.

My thoughts are that too many of those folks posting are just plain theory crafters, and they are not that good Pet Battlers, or they would not be posting that stuff.

But there is one towards the bottom that should have been given a lift, but ... who the heck reads anything these days? And have to read to the bottom of the page to find it? .... get lost!!!!

Again, the most important part of it all, is the procedure, and if you know your pets, you will know how to adjust and use that strategy easily enough.

You won't need the lucky charms for breakfast, or a pat on the head, or some bacon and eggs off Rag's head in the morning ... you just need to read a little more than the first 3 lines!

Over and out!

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Re: Family Battler

Post by FuxieDK » January 16th, 2019, 3:28 am

Uduwudu wrote:
January 14th, 2019, 8:29 am
FuxieDK wrote:
December 19th, 2018, 6:09 am
If anyone finds a truly generic Kwint/Elemental strategy that works, please shout!!

I have an ugly hole in my FFH-addon.. It's the only fight I cannot do.
Weird ... Wowhead is full of ideas and combinations, none of which I have been able to use and make work ... most of them have really poor and bad procedures, with a couple of them wasting a big hit, on a dive, or invis, instead of using something else when that happens.

My thoughts are that too many of those folks posting are just plain theory crafters, and they are not that good Pet Battlers, or they would not be posting that stuff.

But there is one towards the bottom that should have been given a lift, but ... who the heck reads anything these days? And have to read to the bottom of the page to find it? .... get lost!!!!

Again, the most important part of it all, is the procedure, and if you know your pets, you will know how to adjust and use that strategy easily enough.

You won't need the lucky charms for breakfast, or a pat on the head, or some bacon and eggs off Rag's head in the morning ... you just need to read a little more than the first 3 lines!

Over and out!
I used starts from wow-petguide.com, not wowhead ;)

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