Kendrah wrote:Yooda wrote:Can you let me in on the secret?

I've noticed if it's a choice between that surge attack and another 'this comes first move' then the surge attack goes first.

This is incorrect.

For all those "go first" skills, there are no secret formulas behind the mechanic, it's just a flat amount of speed added to the base speed of the pet in that round, and I believe the number is 1625.

So say if your direhorn has a speed of 252, and use charge in this round, you will always go first against any pet which doesn't have any go first skill, because there is no pet in the game with base speed of 1877.

However, say your pet is an Idol and he uses reflection this round, his base speed is 244, plus 1625 will be equal to 1869, then if he is playing against a direhorn and the direhorn will use charge, 1877 speed charge will beat out the 1869 reflection, hence the direhorn will go first and the Idol will still get hit even though he will be using reflection.