Family Fighter - Work in Progess

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Sellys » September 4th, 2017, 6:02 pm

Corehound Pup, Nightmare Lasher, Doom Bloom.

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Q8e192 » September 4th, 2017, 11:09 pm

Sellys wrote:Corehound Pup, Nightmare Lasher, Doom Bloom.
Was wondering if you used a Corehound Pup or a Cinder Kitten ... now I know. Thx
FYI, used a completely different team

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Sellys » September 5th, 2017, 5:44 pm

Snozz makes me cry.

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Kiljare » September 6th, 2017, 1:51 am

Sellys wrote:Snozz makes me cry.

Dragons for Snozz is quite difficult. Tried a few teams without anything resembling success.

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Sellys » September 6th, 2017, 11:52 am

Yeah, that's where I faceplanted. Moved on to Flying, Undead, and Critter without too many issues.

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Sellys » September 6th, 2017, 1:10 pm

Snozz is a jerk.

Health: 1879
Power: 540
Speed: 375

Void Gate
Buried Treasure
Flank

Problem #1: He is faster than almost any non flyer (looking at you sapphire cub), and he swaps you every 3rd round like clockwork. He also heals. It seems like the trick (or one of them anyway) is to kill before that 3rd heal in round 12. If he gets that heal off you're likely going backwards (or very close to dead).

Humanoids: Hogs, Sister of Temptation, Squirky. Hogs gets swapped, Sister CoD and Agony, gets swapped, squirky Stampedes and from there you should be ok.
Dragonkin: So far, no bueno.
Flyers: Simple enough since you're actually faster. Went with S/P crow, S/S crow, Ikky. Used Murder on the first one to get the debuff up.
Undead: Blighted Squirrel, Creepy Crate, Macabre Marionette. Very similar to Humanoids. Excepted you get wrecked by Flank which is critter damage.
Magic: P/P Minfernal, Sapphire Cub, P/B Sanctum Cub.
Elemental: WARNING: EXTREME RNG. Corrupted Blood, Electrified Razortooh, Ominous Flame. Requires you not get your Ominous Flame hit 3 times, and requires good damage on the variable Spiritfire Bolt, twice.
Beasts: Hurray for zandalari raptors?
Aquatic: Muckbreath (or Chuck), Snarly, P/P Crab. Eat his face good.
Mech: P/B Iron Starlette, Lil Bling, Lil Smokty. Not sure if it works using Toxic Smoke instead of Demolish. I think it might be enough damage and that would remove the RNG issues which is nice. Starlette gets swapped, smoky comes in. Toxic Smoke, Sticky Grenade. Bling is swapped in, Make it Rain, Inflation. Starlette is swapped in, Demolish (or toxic smoke if it's enough damage) and then explode.

But man those dragons and elementals. Oof.

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Nuriana » September 7th, 2017, 5:54 am

Snozz is by far the hardest one *sigh*
I still have to figure out a strategy for dragonkin to get the achievement done.
Everything I tried so far did not work out at all...

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Yehuda » September 7th, 2017, 8:44 am

And then there was one ...

All that is left is Snozz vs. Dragons.
And I haven't gotten really that close.

I "feel" it's a dodge/liftoff + life exchange on multiple pet thing that will get me there. But I can't say I'm confident.

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Nuriana » September 7th, 2017, 8:57 am

One should have had a look at the other thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17241 here at the forum :oops:
Papazol featured a strategy for dragonkins that worked out at the very first try. Thank you!
*hugs the little Felclaw Marsuul*

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Sellys » September 7th, 2017, 11:45 am

Yeah, Papazol's works. He found the key in another dragon that's faster with when Snozz is speed debuffed.

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Yehuda » September 7th, 2017, 1:11 pm

And with that I'm done. Thanks all!

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by FuxieDK » September 7th, 2017, 1:50 pm

I'm severely lacking Critters vs Mar'cuus that's NOT dependant on specific breeds, since I apparantly ALWAYS have the wrong breeds...

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Elena » September 7th, 2017, 7:13 pm

So I'm working on Gloamwing for the Aquatics family.... /cry

I only have one Gulp Froglet and it's a B/B, so the strategies I've found so far won't work.

Suggestions?

Edit:
I finally got them all!

My last two that I had to do over and over and over again with different strategies were Shadeflicker vs aquatics and Gloamwing vs aquatics.
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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Q8e192 » September 7th, 2017, 8:05 pm

Elena wrote:So I'm working on Gloamwing for the Aquatics family.... /cry

I only have one Gulp Froglet and it's a B/B, so the strategies I've found so far won't work.

Suggestions?
You're not going to like this answer but ...
Slippery Ice
https://www.warcraftpets.com/abilities/ ... ppery-ice/
Mr. Chilly, Pengu, Tundra Penguin all have this.
This puts a 20% accuracy debuff. This then becomes a RNG game (very, very, very low chance) to survive.
In theory from a mathematical standpoint, it is possible to solo Gloamwing with any of the above pets I mentioned.
From a practical standpoint ... ;)
Do as much dmg as you can with your Gulp Froglet (Swarm) and TideSkipper (Geyser)
Then start playing the RND game.
I would imagine it would take 4 turns to kill Gloamwing after your Gulp Froglet and TideSkipper bring Gloamwing to < 1000hp.
.2^4 == 0.0016

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Sellys » September 8th, 2017, 10:09 am

Elena wrote:So I'm working on Gloamwing for the Aquatics family.... /cry

I only have one Gulp Froglet and it's a B/B, so the strategies I've found so far won't work.

Suggestions?
Sadly I do not. After repeatedly seeing my 2nd pet murdered before it got to really do anything, I gave up and moved on to the next guy. I'll probably buy a Gulp Froglet from the AH since I don't have one. It'll give me the +1 pet and let me do the trainer. If it works you can borrow it since it should be crateable.

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Shashos » September 8th, 2017, 5:22 pm

Just beat Snozz for Draconic using a strat posted today. Only took me 3 tries and I didn't need the Infinite Hatchling.

https://www.wow-petguide.com/index.php?Strategy=1510

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Sellys » September 8th, 2017, 8:23 pm

Everything but Gloamwing vs Aquatics done. I feel dirty for having looked up a couple things though.

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Re: Family Fighter - Work in Progess

Post by Digem » September 9th, 2017, 11:48 am

Quizzus wrote:Did Gloamwing with H/P Gulp, Toothy and Snarly and got meta achievement. Also did around 100 tries using two Gulp fogs strat and two Spirit Crabs strat, annoying as hell! There is something wrong about this fight or there should be some really smart 100% proof strategy, otherwise it is simply not fun.

Seems a few of these fights are flat out painful to do. I don't know why blizz likes to torture us and leave us with no desire to do it again. I am glad I am done and not looking back. I just hope this pet for the achievement is worth it

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