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Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 3rd, 2016, 5:04 pm
by Moppet
Is it just me or is it possible that some of the suramar trainers WQs are bugged? I haven't seen them since Nov 7
I actually haven't seen Master Tamer Flummox at all, looking back at my completed Family achievements.. :/

I check the pet WQs everyday and waiting for the rotation to change sucks :(

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 3rd, 2016, 6:40 pm
by Vakeetah
Flummox has only even been up once, and it didn't give credit towards Family Familiar. There's nothing guaranteeing that this bug will have been fixed when he comes back (if ever). But you're right in Varenne and Aulier having been missing for a long time as well, although I'll add that they don't appear to be available since the start of the day and for 24 hours like the others - but instead appear later in the day, for a shorter time.

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 3rd, 2016, 8:30 pm
by Moppet
Vak, do you know if Vareene and Aulier appear in addition to the daily 3 pet WQs? Or are they part of the 3? Cause I've seen 3 pet WQs every day and they haven't been up for ages...

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 3rd, 2016, 10:00 pm
by Hearte
I actually just made a post about this earlier today on the WoW bug report forum. I'm fairly certain that I haven't missed a single day of pet WQs since the start of November, and I haven't seen any of these three. I'm reasonably certain that something is bugging them out, so that they're not included in the rotation.

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 4th, 2016, 12:57 am
by Peanutty
Moppet wrote:Vak, do you know if Vareene and Aulier appear in addition to the daily 3 pet WQs? Or are they part of the 3? Cause I've seen 3 pet WQs every day and they haven't been up for ages...
They are NOT part of the 3 per day, so if they're up it becomes a 4th pet WQ. However they're not on the same spawn timer as other WQs and sometimes end early or spawn later in the day. I've seen one quest "end" at 2pm PST (which I forgot about and thus missed) and I've seen one spawn in the evening, maybe around 6pm PST?

Judging by my achievements they haven't spawned since early November, as they're always "the last one I need."

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 4th, 2016, 12:20 pm
by Kendrah
I was wondering this myself. There are some on the achievement that I've never seen up. I hate getting the same pet dailies back to back too. RNG is simply not my friend.

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 4th, 2016, 2:18 pm
by Drudatz
Hearte wrote:I actually just made a post about this earlier today on the WoW bug report forum. I'm fairly certain that I haven't missed a single day of pet WQs since the start of November, and I haven't seen any of these three. I'm reasonably certain that something is bugging them out, so that they're not included in the rotation.
Jep im sure of that too - just like that fucked up KT quests they have f'ed these up too....
But hey on the plus side I have done Nightwatcher and Robert on nearly all of the achis :/

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 5th, 2016, 2:11 am
by FuxieDK
Amalia, Xorvasc, Odrogg and Grixis are also fairly absent...

I have spottet Odrogg one less times than Aulier and Varenne.

With 15 trainers, where one is completely absent and 6 are semi-absent, getting 12 for each achievement is allmost impossible, as only 8 are regularly appearing..

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 11th, 2016, 4:37 pm
by Hearte
So for anyone who's been doing this daily for over a month, are your last tamers needed Amalia and Trapper Jarrun as well? I've been doing it with 3 alts daily, and these are the last two I need (Since Aulier, Varenne, and Flummox don't currently exist.) The worst part is needing both of them to show up twice now to finish. Without these Suramar trainers showing, it's a daily dose of disappointment, as far as the other spawns go.

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 11th, 2016, 5:09 pm
by Peanutty
Hearte wrote:So for anyone who's been doing this daily for over a month, are your last tamers needed Amalia and Trapper Jarrun as well? I've been doing it with 3 alts daily, and these are the last two I need (Since Aulier, Varenne, and Flummox don't currently exist.) The worst part is needing both of them to show up twice now to finish. Without these Suramar trainers showing, it's a daily dose of disappointment, as far as the other spawns go.
I still need a few Jarrun (who at least showed up last week), Amalia, Odrogg... and Bredda one more time. I didn't have an alt available until recently so I'm a little behind where I'd like to be, but even then, only have 3 families left to complete.

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 11th, 2016, 9:48 pm
by Moritsume
Vakeetah wrote:Flummox has only even been up once, and it didn't give credit towards Family Familiar.
Flummox did actually give credit for Family Familiar. I know it didn't show up as completed in the meta achieve, but I completed one of the families with only 11 battles highlighted, meaning that while Flummox didn't show as completed he did in fact count as the 12th battle I had won :)

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 13th, 2016, 9:30 pm
by Heriwald
Don't you need to complete the druid nighteyes and the vineyards questlines to have access to aurier and varenne ?

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 14th, 2016, 12:54 am
by Shashos
Heriwald wrote:Don't you need to complete the druid nighteyes and the vineyards questlines to have access to aurier and varenne ?
Pretty sure that at least the Vineyards questline is required. I've done all the Suramar quests and I'm still not seeing Aulier and Varenne anymore. I suspect that it's some sort of phasing issue due to the Insurrection quest chains.

I've already finished the FF achievement, so I haven't really been watching too too closely, but others are confirming this pair is missing.

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 14th, 2016, 12:55 am
by FuxieDK
Moritsume wrote:
Vakeetah wrote:Flummox has only even been up once, and it didn't give credit towards Family Familiar.
Flummox did actually give credit for Family Familiar. I know it didn't show up as completed in the meta achieve, but I completed one of the families with only 11 battles highlighted, meaning that while Flummox didn't show as completed he did in fact count as the 12th battle I had won :)
I got credit for Safari but not FF, the only time Flummox was up..

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 14th, 2016, 1:05 am
by Peanutty
FuxieDK wrote:
Moritsume wrote:
Vakeetah wrote:Flummox has only even been up once, and it didn't give credit towards Family Familiar.
Flummox did actually give credit for Family Familiar. I know it didn't show up as completed in the meta achieve, but I completed one of the families with only 11 battles highlighted, meaning that while Flummox didn't show as completed he did in fact count as the 12th battle I had won :)
I got credit for Safari but not FF, the only time Flummox was up..
Same. Easy for me to check my achievement on this as Flummox was up on the first day I tried doing the Family Familiar related WQs.

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 14th, 2016, 1:41 am
by Cluey
Same for me, except I don't have any alts to do it on. I was thinking about the best way of getting their attention and thought it might be Twitter, but I don't really use it.
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I'd like to thank @Gello for making such a simple way of tracking this too, I'd missed a few before I was told about this. Cheers mate.

Re: Family Familiar.. Aulier/Varenne/Flummox?

Posted: December 27th, 2016, 9:19 am
by Peterc
Master Tamer Flummox is UP at the moment (about 16 hours left) and gives credit - at list it is now showing as done in my already completed achievements.

Peterc (In game pet collector - retired)