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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Papazol » May 11th, 2015, 3:50 pm

Great news. I'm already 40 lvl for months.
To lvl faster you need:
- play against players;
- try to hit higher lvl, at least 20, in every game;
- win games.
In this order. Fast win against bots gives you less exp than lose against another players if you get 20+ lvl.
Chars to play:
1. Support (healer). Every week in free rotation you will get 1 healer. Teams with heal win more often. Your main target - heal more than enemy damagers do hero dmg. If you will able overheal 2 dd, your team will win. Like WoW player, you can heal much better than any gamers from DOTA, LoL etc... NB! Tasadar isn't "healer" at all.
2. Ranged specialist. This chars (Zagara, Sylvana, Nazeero) do a lot aoe dmg, so your team get more exp, even if you will lose.
3. Ranged assassins. Easy to play, can do some aoe dmg, so if you don't like to heal or specialists to hard for you, you can play them.
Chars, what you should avoid:
- Don't play Abathur, Murky, Lost Vikings -specific chars, what reque high skill to play. If you do not know what to do, you just will waste your time and troll your team.
- Don't play slealth chars - Nova and Zerathul. They are specific gang chars, what don't make any notable amount of exp.
- Don't play warriors - they are tanks, what slow in exp gaining, and melee assassins for same reasons.

So if I will need to achiev 20 lvl in HotS, I will get party with ranged specialist+support, will play quick matches and get 20 lvl in no time.
GL.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby FuxieDK » May 12th, 2015, 12:03 pm

So.... I bought Raynor and is ready for some Coop play..

Anyone in Euro-zone wanna give it a go?

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Widdershin » May 12th, 2015, 2:05 pm

A question I haven't seen answered in this thread is whether the characters you currently have will be wiped prior to official launch and, more importantly, whether the level 20 character you attain in beta will transfer through to the live game. Will you have to level up to 20 again on live before getting the achievement/pet? I'm pretty sure this was what happened with Hearthstone and the mount. None of the wins in beta counted towards the mount until Hearthstone went live.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Luciandk » May 12th, 2015, 2:26 pm

What you have now will carry over to the full game. No more wipes planned, as its an open beta and they already are selling heroes ingame.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/9/22/682549 ... e-blizzard


We will not be performing any further wipes, so any current progress or purchases you’ve made thus far during closed beta will carry through to open beta as well as post-launch. If we determine later down the line that our progression system needs to be modified, progress will not be wiped, but will be assigned to the appropriate Hero and/or Player level.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/to ... 53425570#7
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/17347435082


Nearly done myself. Coop exp gain should be reopening in 2 hours for me. Will get me to level 20.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Merana » May 12th, 2015, 2:41 pm

http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/188 ... 20-04-2015 and here's the corresponding news article about no more wipes from the HotS website.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Luciandk » May 12th, 2015, 2:42 pm

Merana wrote:http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/18813884/heroes-of-the-storm-launches-june-2-20-04-2015 and here's the corresponding news article about no more wipes from the HotS website.


This is the relevant bit from the link above:
No Further Wipes

We won’t be performing any further wipes, so any progress or purchases you’ve made during the closed beta will carry through to the open beta as well as post-launch.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby FuxieDK » May 12th, 2015, 3:00 pm

OK, please help me out here, as I'm getting DICK XP here...

I bought Raynor for 2000g... I got him to level 5 and profil to level 6.. So far so good.
Now I'm getting next to no XP.

After previous match it said:
To level 7 (profile): 32869XP
To level 6 (toon): 357869XP

Did one more Coop (no friend) and screen said I got 72K XP.
To level 7 (profile): 25177XP
To level 6 (toon): 350177XP

Basically, I did a Coop (which I won) and got 7K XP, even though screen claimed 72k????

It's not just ONE fight... I had been going VERY SLOW ever since I bought Raynor (funny, I was also level 6/5 back then), so I think I've been getting 10% Xp ever since I bought him..
Also, I have a daily quest that says play 2 matches with SC toon... It's been stuck at 1 of 2 for many fights now...

PLEASE ADVICE!!

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Luciandk » May 12th, 2015, 3:25 pm

think you have misread and mistyped the numbers

My take is that you went from 328k to to 251k for profile towards lvl 7. Which fits much closer with the 72k+ you said you earned. Takes 400k xp to earn level 7. On your stats screen, look at the graphical representation of the exp gain, how far is the curve showing for you?

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/15007160886


Regarding Raynor, I believe you have to play him in coop or pvp for it to count. have you only been doing practice?

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Caega » May 12th, 2015, 3:52 pm

In the recent patch, Practice mode is now called Training and Cooperative is now called Versus AI. Versus AI gives the option to have AI as teammates playing against AI opponents. XP for Training and Versus AI seems to be the same as the previous Practice and Coop modes.

Training match wins don't seem to count towards number of wins for daily quest objectives like Practice matches used to.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Luciandk » May 12th, 2015, 4:16 pm

Caega wrote:In the recent patch, Practice mode is now called Training and Cooperative is now called Versus AI. Versus AI gives the option to have AI as teammates playing against AI opponents. XP for Training and Versus AI seems to be the same as the previous Practice and Coop modes.

Training match wins don't seem to count towards number of wins for daily quest objectives like Practice matches used to.


Seems EU havent gotten that patch yet.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Luciandk » May 12th, 2015, 8:00 pm

Argh! Almost there, just 85k to level 20. But EU blizzard is shutting down for maintenance right now, barely managed to finish in time the coop match i had in progress.

Been a long affair, but im glad Im nearly over it now. Dont give up, its doable with persistence and patience.

I intend to keep hots on my pc till official launch, logging on once to tick the cheevo. Then away it goes.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Dakaf » May 12th, 2015, 9:06 pm

I'm at level 10 on HotS so far. I don't play that often at all. Now I wish I did play a lot more earlier, as I've had access since Alpha. I have only really done training matches so far. A lot better exp with friends though.
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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby FuxieDK » May 12th, 2015, 10:50 pm

Luciandk wrote:think you have misread and mistyped the numbers

My take is that you went from 328k to to 251k for profile towards lvl 7. Which fits much closer with the 72k+ you said you earned. Takes 400k xp to earn level 7. On your stats screen, look at the graphical representation of the exp gain, how far is the curve showing for you?

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/15007160886


Regarding Raynor, I believe you have to play him in coop or pvp for it to count. have you only been doing practice?

'The numbers are correct.. I checked them twice and wrote them down on paper. Also, the XP graph on the dial, didn't change (visible, atleast), which fits with 1,75% (7k vs 400k) of a level..
I did select Coop in the top, and my teammates were using the chat, somthey were not bots..

I bought him yesterday, specifically to avoid playing Practice..

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Luciandk » May 13th, 2015, 5:05 am

And finished! Just got into a coop game with russians, they utterly steamrolled the bots. A crushing victory 18/14, that got me to lvl 20.

Now just to wait for Hots release to claim Graves. :)


So it took 4 days from 1-20.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Fahra » May 13th, 2015, 7:48 pm

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Desi » May 13th, 2015, 9:42 pm

I have been enjoying this game. I think it will be pretty easy to reach level 20 just by logging on with a friend and completing one of the quests each day, which requires 3 wins. I'm currently level 9.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Tekulve2012 » May 14th, 2015, 3:43 am

Hiya all

So I jumped into this the other day. I don't play these types of games so I bought the stimpack bundle to start out. In about 4 or 5 hours of play I have reached level 8. I've only played 1 game with others...they tend to be longer...so xp wise maybe solo (training mode) works out to the same. I haven't played with btag friends yet.

The game is easy enough...but even with stimpacks it looks like a 12+ hour grind at least...I will report back on total hours needed to play if mainly done in training mode.

It took me roughly 22 hours to earn the pet monument...but along the way I leveled 3 toons from 91-100...it was still pretty mind numbing. HotS is awkward as far as movement in game...otherwise its fine to play

Good luck folks

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Luciandk » May 14th, 2015, 9:13 am

Hrm, kinda suprised that this isnt frontpage news yet. As Id imagine theres plenty whom would be interested in picking up Graves and doing the grind for the pet to be ready when it becomes available.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Voskres » May 14th, 2015, 5:03 pm

Ok sorry I have been Alpha and I'm Beta now, but I have just barely dorked around with it.

I understand from reading here that coop games have the best XP?

What and how is a coop game, is that AI? I just normally check the 'fill' box.

Do we have a roster of people to add if you want to play together? If so feel free to send me an inv vosk1999, but know I am JUST starting to rekick the tires.

Thanks for the rundown above Papa, that is the best info so far.

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Re: Graves source revealed. Is this bad?

Postby Luciandk » May 14th, 2015, 6:11 pm

In the newest patch coop got renamed vs Ai. You can play with other people against the computer. Worth doing so, as playing with a friend gives +50% xp, which stacks with the bonus from a stimpack.

Also, vs ai and practice is saddled with a shared xp cap of 2.25 million xp. Reach it and it will take 24 hours for it to clear. Until then you can only gain xp through pvp matches.

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