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Legion Alpha/Beta - datamined info

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 1:07 am
by Quintessence
Update: Full list of [url=http://www.warcraftpets.com/wow-pets/unlisted/]Legion datamined pets[/url].

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Alpha/Beta is still closed and not open yet, however Wowhead's been busy datamining the data from the CDN (Content Distribution Network).

General disclaimer - still VERY early beta, a lot could change and some pets might be placeholders and/or not make it into the final version of Legion.

15 new pets discovered so far! No battling information on them yet, just spell details.
http://www.wowhead.com/news=250046/legion-beta-build-20740-professions-battle-pets-mounts-spell-data#battle-pets
Enchanted Cauldron: Right Click to summon and dismiss your Enchanted Cauldron.
Enchanted Torch: Right Click to summon and dismiss your Enchanted Torch.
Enchanted Water Bucket: Right Click to summon and dismiss your Enchanted Water Bucket.
Crispin: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.
Emmigosa: Right Click to summon and dismiss Emmigosa.
Bleakwater Cephalopod: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.
Stormborne Whelpling: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.
Broot: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.
Fel Piglet: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.
Plump Cephalopod: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.
Nursery Spider: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.
Nightwatch Swooper: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.
Fetid Waveling: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.
Thistleleaf Adventurer: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.
Risen Saber Kitten: Right Click to summon and dismiss Nuts.

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 3:54 am
by Quintessence
Datamined models [url=http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/5314-Legion-Beta-Build-20740]from MMO-Champion[/url]:

Baby moose - http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/november/BabyMoose.jpg
Saber Cub - http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/november/Saber2Cub.jpg

Updated bunny/rabbit models? - http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/november/Rabbit2.jpg

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 5:43 am
by Paladance
Still a nice piece of info! :) Thanks, Quintessence.

Some of my wishes and wild guesses:

Glad to see more enchanted items. Probably they're related to the new Dalaran, however, I'd like to see new Enchanting or Inscription pets! [EDIT: Enchanting confirmed, the recipes' source is yet to be confirmed.]
It also seems that we have a new Blue Dragonflight member. :) A good Dragonkin is always precious, but what about the other flights, especially green and red ones?
Cephalopod means a squid. Probably just a Syd's rework. [EDIT: Nope, another model!]
Stormborne Whelpling gives a Stormwing's texture to the mind, but maybe is it really a Vrykul-related whelp? One doesn't exclude another. [EDIT: Called it! :D]
Nightwatch Swooper seems to be a WoD model batling, which about I've talked about some weeks ago. :) [EDIT: There is an owl icon now. No idea.]
Fetid Waveling -- Something from an Eye of Azshara instance? If there was no "Fetid", I'd think about the WotLK elemental model, but with that it seems to be just a green/brown recolour of Puddle Terror. [EDIT: A common water elemental, but with RGB blue colouring.]

It's also funny how they use Nuts' name as a placeholder. :D

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 2:22 pm
by Valielina
The new rabbit models look amazing! I would love for them to give all the rabbit models and upgraded skin...looking at you [pet]Darkmoon Rabbit[/pet]. I almost always have my rabbit out, I would love for an updated skin.

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 3:03 pm
by Paladance
Didn't notice these rabbits! Apparently they've [ability]dodge[/ability]d from my sight or escaped into the [ability]burrow[/ability]. ;)

I've thought about the [pet]Darkmoon Rabbit[/pet] too. Mehehe.

I hope it's extended to some other critters aswell, those [pet]squirrel[/pet]s' pointy cheeks used to scare me. :o
And what may the new Dalaran offer to us without a new [pet]Giant Sewer Rat[/pet]? :D

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: November 22nd, 2015, 1:05 am
by Quintessence
Wowhead's [url=http://beta.wowhead.com/items=15.2?filter=cr=82;crs=1;crv=60203#0+2-3]Legion database[/url] is now up. 5 new pets discovered!
  • Ashmaw Cub
  • Son of Goredome
  • Grumpy's Leash
  • Skyhorn Nestling
  • Wyrmy Tunkins

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 5:20 pm
by Quintessence
More datamining -- 9 new Grand Master Pet Tamers!
  • Bodhi Sunwayver
  • Bredda Tenderhide
  • Durian Strongfruit
  • Grixis Tinypop
  • Master Tamer Wyrmy (<Super Epic Grand Master Pet Tamer>)
  • Robert Craig
  • Shipwrecked Captive
  • Sir Galveston
  • Tiffany Nelson

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 9:27 pm
by Merana
Looks like the dust bunny was a great idea.
Quintessence wrote: [*]Durian Strongfruit

:lol: I wonder if s/he'll have only pets with [ability]Stench[/ability].

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 11:56 pm
by Paladance
[url=http://www.warcraftpets.com/wow-pets/unlisted/]Unlisted pets[/url] are updated with even more pets than in the post below.
But I still hope that you love the details provided!

http://www.wowhead.com/news=250094/

The alpha screenshots!
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491570.jpg]Alarm-O-Bot[/url] ([url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491571.jpg]view[/url]), probably with these sounds (NOT this NPC)
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491620.jpg]Fetid Waveling[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491624.jpg]Long-Eared Owl[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491628.jpg]Nightmare Larva[/url] *
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491606.jpg]Blue Broodling[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491631.jpg]Red Broodling[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491630.jpg]Purple Broodling[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491642.jpg]Yellow Broodling[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491572.jpg]Albatross Chick[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491611.jpg]Dust Bunny[/url] ([url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491612.jpg]description[/url]) **
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491573.jpg]Auburn Ringtail[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491574.jpg]Black Piglet[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491607.jpg]Blue Piglet[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491609.jpg]Brown Piglet[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491632.jpg]Ridgeback Piglet[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491614.jpg]Eldritch Manafiend[/url] ***
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491615.jpg]Erudite Manafiend[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491617.jpg]Eye of Inquisition[/url] ([url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491618.jpg]description[/url])
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491621.jpg]Hateful Eye[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491616.jpg]Extinguished Eye[/url] ****
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491575.jpg]Black Rat[/url] -- either a preview placeholder or a real model update.
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491608.jpg]Broot[/url] *****
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491610.jpg]Coralback Fiddler[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491613.jpg]Echo Batling[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491619.jpg]Felspider[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491622.jpg]Hog-Nosed Bat[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491623.jpg]Juvenile Scuttleback[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491629.jpg]Olivetail Hare[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491625.jpg]Mist Vulpes[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491626.jpg]Mudshell Conk[/url] ([url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491627.jpg]description with typo[/url] ;))
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491633.jpg]Risen Saber Kitten[/url] ([url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491634.jpg]description[/url])
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491635.jpg]Rose Taipan[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491637.jpg]Slithering Brownscale[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491641.jpg]Vale Flitter[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491638.jpg]Thistleleaf Adventurer[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491639.jpg]Tiny Apparition[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491636.jpg]Shadow Whelpling[/url] ******
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491654.jpg]Stormborne Whelpling[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491640.jpg]Toxic Whelpling[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491652.jpg]Emmigosa[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491647.jpg]Crispin[/url] ([url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491648.jpg]description[/url])
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491646.jpg]Bleakwater Cephalopod[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491650.jpg]Purple Cephalopod[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491653.jpg]Grumpy[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491651.jpg]Son of Goredome[/url]
  • [url=http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/491649.jpg]Knockoff Blingtron[/url]
* -- lovely!
** -- so there is that model! I wonder if one hides in a hat? Too sad that ablities are plain at this moment. I wanna a critter with [ability]Sandstorm[/ability]!
*** -- a Highmaul build + [pet]Servant of Demidos[/pet]' model? Please, make it more unique. Or give it a P/S breed, at least. Also see pet below.
**** -- so now we can Zelda-theme our team using demonic eyes. Yay.
***** -- if this isn't a store pet, I can see the tears of both store afficionados and casual PvPers. Unless it has a miserable breed. :P
****** -- both [ability]Call Darkness[/ability] and [ability]Darkflame[/ability] o.o

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: December 2nd, 2015, 3:10 pm
by Poofah
Here's a full list with abilities at a glance, including tamer pets: [url=http://legion.wowhead.com/petspecies?filter=cr=4;crs=7;crv=0#petspecies]http://legion.wowhead.com/petspecies?filter=cr=4;crs=7;crv=0#petspecies[/url].

You can switch to gallery to see the models. It should update with each new build.

Master Tamer Wyrmy is very interesting because he's an npc tamer as well as a battle pet. Maybe we fight his pets like a normal tamer, and then he'll pull a 'I'll take you on myself!', after which maybe you fight his battle pet version? That would be a fun innovation for tamers if so.

*edit* here is Wyrmy's dialogue text:
[url=http://legion.wowhead.com/quest=40337/master-tamer-wyrmy]Wyrmy is hungry! Wyrmy wants to eat your squishy things. How about we make our squishy things fight, and winner gets to eat the loser's squishy things![/url]
Most of the other tamer pets look like they're balanced for standard 3-per-team tamer fights. Nothing particularly interesting there.

However a couple of the pets (e.g. Heliosus and the mini-Omnitron pets) have this tantalizing little bit of info attached:
Vendor: Mr. Burns

Puzzle pet for Adventure Mode in 7.0
Mr. Burns is a Worgen npc added in 7.0, and otherwise I have no idea what this 'adventure mode' might be.

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: December 2nd, 2015, 3:56 pm
by Paladance
Poofah wrote:Master Tamer Wyrmy is very interesting because he's an npc tamer as well as a battle pet. Maybe we fight his pets like a normal tamer, and then he'll pull a 'I'll take you on myself!', after which maybe you fight his battle pet version? That would be a fun innovation for tamers if so.
I'd see him in a Pandaren Spirits manner, where it looked like that, but sadly without any RP comment.

Seeing his model, I just wonder why he doesn't toss a book from on his head! :lol:
Most of the other tamer pets look like they're balanced for standard 3-per-team tamer fights. Nothing particularly interesting there.
These kind of pets are likely to change I hope? Sunny is a copypaste of Farmer Nishi's pet / Singing Sunflower.

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: December 2nd, 2015, 4:56 pm
by Poofah
Paladance wrote:These kind of pets are likely to change I hope? Sunny is a copypaste of Farmer Nishi's pet / Singing Sunflower.
Possible. But it's also ok if not every tamer pet is innovative and new. There's 2 other pets to help make the fight distinct from Nishi. And also there needs to be some more basic entry-level content among the early tamers.

One of the big mistakes from WoD was assuming that the Menagerie would be a progression from the endgame pet content in MoP. However since the Menagerie was in our garrison, it drew in a lot of newbie pet battlers. That was great from the perspective of getting new people to try pet battles, however the Menagerie was way too hard for them. Hence there were massive complaints and they had to nerf it, which consequently took away the 'endgame' pet PvE content for WoD (until Tiny Terrors in Tanaan in the final content patch).

So I think it's necessary to have some more basic pet PvE content in the early parts of Legion, and many of these tamer pets look like just that.

Of course we'd really like there to be some legitimately difficult 'endgame' pet PvE, which is as yet not apparent. "Puzzle pet" and "Adventure Mode" give me a bit of hope, but we really need to see more.

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: December 3rd, 2015, 3:35 am
by Quintessence
Latest Alpha build: 20773

Not much has been updated in the way of new pets. However, the Menagerie NPCs moved into Breanni's shop in New Dalaran. Still selling items and pets for Pet Charms (including the new pets coming in Legion, listed below).
  • 200 for Fel Piglet
  • 100 for Nightwatch Swooper
  • 50 for Plump Cephalopod
The weekly quest offered is still tied to WoD (defeat 5 *Draenor* trainers for 10 leveling stones). Hoping we'll get a Legion equivalent of this though.

Since garrison building perks aren't carried over, the reduced CD on Revive Battle Pets is gone. It's now back to the standard 8 minute CD. Draenic Trap gone as well. Could easily bake the perks in, or offer a small quest/achieve to unlock them, but we'll see if that's the direction the developers want to go.

Edit: Oh yea, and [url=http://legion.wowhead.com/item=134860/peddlefeets-buffing-creme]Buff Peddlefeet[/url]. :lol:

Edit #2: Perculia found some [url=http://legion.wowhead.com/quests=7.-394?filter=cr=35;crs=7;crv=0]new dailies[/url] that reward Pet Charms.

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: December 3rd, 2015, 4:20 pm
by Poofah
Quintessence wrote:Edit #2: Perculia found some new dailies that reward Pet Charms.
There's 9 tamers: 8 plus Master Wyrmy. And there's currently 24 tamer pets that fit into 3-pet fights, plus Wyrmy who is likely a solo pet fight. So it's very consistent with there being 8 regular tamer fights plus Wyrmy as the intro tamers for Legion, and it looks like it's balanced precisely like the WoD zone tamers (rare-quality pets, normal stat budget, probably very easy).

Heliosus and the Omnitron pets are more interesting and it's not clear how or when we would get to fight them.

Re: Legion Beta - Wowhead datamined info

Posted: December 4th, 2015, 4:01 am
by Paladance
Poofah wrote:Heliosus and the Omnitron pets are more interesting and it's not clear how or when we would get to fight them.
They're kinda bothering if you ask me.
Their attributes are conradicting themselves.

All are marked as vendor pets, yet Heliosus and Electron are not tameable.
Rocko, Arcanotron and Magmatron are "companions only", yet they have offensive abilities.

Re: Legion Alpha/Beta - datamined info

Posted: December 4th, 2015, 5:37 pm
by Poofah
Yes, they're clearly unfinished and placeholder-ish. They may not even make it into the final release. But there's not much else to get excited about so I'm reading into a bit.

Re: Legion Alpha/Beta - datamined info

Posted: December 10th, 2015, 1:21 pm
by Matthias
I don't suppose someone on PTR can let me know if the new Fox (Vulpes) pets are larger (Ie Alpine Foxling sized) or pointlessley tiny (ie Fox Kit Size)

I love the large fox and really wish we'd get a red version that size.

Re: Legion Alpha/Beta - datamined info

Posted: December 13th, 2015, 12:58 pm
by Quintessence
[url=https://twitter.com/liopleurodonic/status/676086310000529408]Lio discovered[/url] that you'll be able to search the Pet Journal for pets with a specific ability in Legion.

Example: Type in "dodge" and the journal will come up with results of all pets that have the [ability]Dodge[/ability] ability.

Awesome quality of life change or possible annoyance?

For now, I think it's a great addition...until I name one of my pets the same name as an ability. Then it might get annoying lol.

Re: Legion Alpha/Beta - datamined info

Posted: December 13th, 2015, 4:01 pm
by Paladance
I like it.
Quite recently I've sent such a request to designer of one of the addons.
I wonder what does he think now if he can see it. :lol:

Though I guess this won't include more "meta" categories like the weather effects or status (Poisoned, Webbed, Chilled, etc). I'd like to see them too.

Re: Legion Alpha/Beta - datamined info

Posted: December 15th, 2015, 5:46 pm
by Quintessence
After further testing of the ability search feature in the journal, there's a small issue with how it's currently designed that could be annoying.

Some pet ability names include words that are used elsewhere in game, specifically for zones. Search for [ability]Burn[/ability] and you'd expect to see results for Burn right? [ability]Deep Burn[/ability] pops up as well, and I guess that's ok since it's similar enough.

But then you also get results like Ash Viper, which doesn't have any type of "burn" ability. It only shows up because it's from the Burning Steppes. Lurky also appears in the filter since it's from Burning Crusade.

Similar problem with Howl and Howling Fjord.

I've submitted a suggestion that for ability searches, it should require quotation marks ("Burn" vs. Burn) so that the return is specifically just pet abilities. To me, that's just the simplest fix.