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Postby Rendigar » September 28th, 2013, 6:22 pm

OPENING STATEMENT:
This guide lists more than one team for some fights - this is to allow you, the tamer, to choose from two solid teams that both work in a similarly short timeframe while meeting all other goals. It is not the be-all end-all "perfect" team for each fight, it is aimed to allow the largest number of players to consistently defeat the Master Tamers (while levelling a pet) and also defeat the Beasts of Fable as you pass by them on your way around Pandaria. The forums themselves may contain alternate teams that are not listed here, though if one of them should be found to be hands-down better than the one(s) listed here, they will likely replace what is in the guide.

ASSUMPTION:
- This guide is definitely aimed at the experienced PvE pet battler, with a solid stable of level 25 rare pets and a willingness to acquire and level more of them as needed.
- The guide also assumes you do not have / want more than 1 of any given pet collected. Many pet collectors prefer to have only 1 of each, so the guide is written with that in mind.

GOALS:
- Allow you (in the case of the master tamers) to bring a "carry pet" to gain large amounts of XP. Beasts of Fable battles award terrible XP compared to the Master tamers (or even regular battles) so the goal there is to just win quickly.
- Provide a single list of (some of) the best teams for the Master Tamers and Beasts of Fable
- Use only pets that can be captured in game, purchased from vendors, dropped from mobs, or from achievements/quests
- Avoid using pets with very low drop rates or that require spending real-world money (so no TCG or Blizzard Store pets)
- Win as close to 100% of the time as possible, trying to avoid RNG (natural bad luck + randomness = frustrating losses)
- Update as others contribute their winning strategies, after testing, so long as the 4 goals above are met

CREDITS:
These teams are credited to many people around the WoW community and on the WarcraftPets forums especially. While we may have tweaked some of them to improve odds, they are almost always the work of other pet battlers out there. Two people who cannot be thanked enough are Cabadath and Phraide, whose original works are the backbone of this entire guide. Most notably the previous version of the guide found here: Guide to tamer daily pet battles (5.3) - For veterans by Phraide provided the design, structure, and many of the teams.

ADD-ONS:
BattlePet BreedID - displays the letter code breeds heavily referenced throughout the pet battling community
PetBattle Teams - lets you create and lock down multiple pet teams with specific members and abilities, then you can select the team of two, drag in your carry pet from the left pet list to the empty slot in the bottom-center area and then start the battle.
PetBattle Tactician - shows the PvE enemy team abilities and cooldown timers. It makes a significant difference in how easy some of these fights are to follow and time the use of abilities. I hated having to memorize all the ability cooldowns for the enemy teams.

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PETS:
- Unless noted, should always be rare and are described using the code - - Pet name [Breed] (Skillset)
- :!: before a pet’s name in the strategy means the pet is required for it, no other pet is reasonably acceptable
- Alternate pets will be listed below the main pet list for the fight, labeled for which slot they are a replacement for

[Breed] displays both the breed ID# used by Blizzard and the letter codes commonly displayed by many add-ons.
[-] means there is no need to search for a specific breed or there is only one / no breed at all.
The most common breeds used are [4-P/P], [5-S/S], [6-H/H], and [8-P/S].

(Skillset) is the list of abilities the pet will use for the encounter. There are 2 abilities for each slot that you can choose from, a 1 means the top ability and a 2 means the bottom ability. So 111 means the top ability for all 3 slots, and 212 means the bottom ability for the first and last slots and the top ability for the second slot.

Carry pets generally are brought out when a pet dies and then immediately switched out, so they take no actions but still get their XP. If a carry pet starts out as the first pet then it must make 1 action before being switched. If the carry pet will take significant damage then a recommended minimum health will be listed.

TEAM COMPOSITIONS:
The pet battle strategies listed sometimes contain different pet options for the first, second, or third pet slots. You only need to have one of the pets available, and in general they are listed in the order of strongest to weakest. Where the weaker choice makes a difference in the fight it will be explained what you need to do.

The teams are listed with which pet should be in the first, second, and third slot but really only the first slot is critical. Personally unless the carry pet is first I always have mine in the third slot so it is easier for me to manage my teams.

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MASTER PET LIST:
Below is a list of all the pets used throughout this guide. Make sure you look over all the fights before you make your shopping list, as you can exclude several of the pets depending on which team makeup you decide to use for the various fights. For example you never need to have a Minfernal or Netherspace Abyssal, the other exploders can do the job, maybe just not as well. And if you decide never to bother with the regular Beasts of Fable there are a number of pets you will not need (like the Minfernal :D).

Drop / vendor / crafted / achievement / quest:
Anubisath Idol [-]
Celestial Dragon [-]
Chrominius [-]
Clockwork Gnome [-]
Corefire Imp [-]
Darkmoon Tonk [-]
Darkmoon Zeppelin [-]
Enchanted Lantern [-]
Festival Lantern [-]
Ghostly Skull [-]
Lunar Lantern [-]
Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling [-]
Netherspace Abyssal [6-H/H] - - any breed works, but not as well
Pandaren Water Spirit [-]
Pet Bombling [-]
Red Cricket [-]
Singing Sunflower [-]
Snarly [-] - - Chuck [-], Muckbreath [-], or Toothy [-]) also work
Sunreaver Micro-Sentry [-]
Terrible Turnip [-]
Tiny White Carp [-]
Tranquil Mechanical Yeti [-]
Zandalari Anklerender [14-P/P] - - [15-S/S] or [18-P/S] can actually be better vs Ka’wi the Gorger
Zandalari Kneebiter [4-P/P] - - [5-S/S] or [8-P/S] can actually be better vs Ka’wi the Gorger

Pet Battle Captured:
Amber Moth [8-P/S] (Gilded Moth [8-P/S] has same stats)
Cogblade Raptor [5-S/S]
Electrified Razortooth [-]
Emerald Proto-Whelp [4-P/P] - - uncommon rarity acceptable
Emperor Crab [4-P/P]
Eternal Strider [8-P/S]
Flayer Youngling [5-S/S] - - uncommon acceptable, as is a rare of breed [8-P/S], [9-H/S], or [11-S/B] just more risk
Grasslands Cottontail [5-S/S]
Infinite Whelpling [4-P/P]
Minfernal [-] - - breed [6-H/H] is best but any breed is better than not having one in your collection :D
Nether Fairie Dragon [4-P/P]
Proto-Drake Whelp [-]
Rapana Whelk [-] - - any breed of snail will do, however
Scourged Whelpling [6-H/H] - - uncommon rarity acceptable, as is a rare of breed 8-[P/S] just more risk
Spirit Crab [-] - - uncommon rarity of [6-H/H] also acceptable
Unborn Val'kyr [-]
Yellow Moth [4-P/P] - - uncommon rarity acceptable
Wildhammer Gryphon Hatchling [4-P/P] - - any other breed works, just more risk

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TRAVEL ROUTE/
This list shows the order including when and where to heal your teams and is designed to reduce travel time.
The entire route can be completed in under 2 hours, if you want to use lesser pet treats along the way.
Just doing the Master Tamers can be completed in less than an hour, if XP is your main goal.

The entries that have (Book #) after them are Beasts of Fable and that is the daily quest they are listed under.
All healing instructions listed after the fights assume you actually need a heal, the spots are on the way in most cases.
All tamers except Bordin Steadyfist, Brok, and Goz Banefury give a Sack of Pet Supplies as a reward for their daily quest.
All Pandaren Spirits give Pandaren Spirit Pet Supplies as a reward, which can contain the pet of that Spirit.
If you decide to not do the Beasts of Fable then you should completely skip those lines (including healing location).

START
    Kun-lai Summit - Thundering Pandaren Spirit
    Kun-lai Summit - Dos-Ryga (Book 1) - heal at Kota Basecamp
    Kun-lai Summit - Courageous Yon
    Kun-lai Summit - Kafi (Book 1)
    Townlong Steppes - Burning Pandaren Spirit - heal at Shado-Pan Garrison
    Townlong Steppes - Seeker Zusshi - heal at Klaxxi’vess (if not doing Beasts of Fable)
    Townlong Steppes - Ti’un the Wanderer (Book 3) - heal at Gao-Ran Battlefront
    Vale of the Eternal Blossoms - No-No (Book 3)
    Vale of the Eternal Blossoms - Aki the Chosen
    Dread Wastes - Wastewalker Shu - heal at Klaxxi’vess
    Dread Wastes - Gorespine (Book 3) - heal at Soggy’s Gamble
    Dread Wastes - Flowing Pandaren Spirit
    Valley of the Four Winds - Greyhoof (Book 2) - heal (personal revive / pet bandage)
    Krasarang Wilds - Skitterer Xi’a (Book 2) - heal (personal revive / pet bandage)
    Krasarang Wilds - Mo'ruk - heal at Halfhill (if not doing Beasts of Fable)
    Valley of the Four Winds - Farmer Nishi
    Valley of the Four Winds - Lucky Yi (Book 2) - heal at Halfhill
    Jade Forest - Ka’wi the Gorger (Book 1)
    Jade Forest - Hyuna of the Shrines - heal at Dawns Blossom (if doing Beasts of Fable)
    Jade Forest - Nitun (Book 1) - heal at Dawns Blossom
    Jade Forest - Whispering Pandaren Spirit - fly back to Shrine, heal, take Portal to Shattrath
    Shadowmoon Valley - Blood Knight Antari - use Argent Crusader Tabard / Portal to Dalaran
    Icecrown - Major Payne - If doing (Optional) battles then go to Capital City
    (Optional) Deepholm - Bordin Steadyfist - return to Capital City, heal (at Mount Hyjal)
    (Optional) Mount Hyjal - Brok - return to Capital City
    (Optional) Twilight Highlands - Goz Banefury - return to Capital City, heal (at Uldum)
    (Optional) Uldum - Obalis
FINISH

You can go thru any Blasted Lands portal and fly over to fight Lydia Accoste in Deadwind Pass (40,76), and also go fight Trixxy in Winterspring (65, 64) as they both also give a Sack of Pet Supplies (any of which can contain Flawless-type Battle-Stones). They do not give good XP for your pets, assuming you use 25’s and a carry pet, but the sacks may be worth the effort.

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Beasts of Fable (BoF) Strategies: These pet teams require special mention because they can be used vs many of the beasts, though some work better than others. All of the teams are listed at the end of the guide so as to avoid repeating the same information throughout, as they can be used multiple times with the same set of moves.
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Thundering Pandaren Spirit - Location: Vale of Eternal Blossoms (67, 13)
Team 1: 17 rounds
vs Pandaren Earth Spirit
    - Dive > (if dive misses, forfeit and restart) > Acidic Goo > Ooze Touch until Pandaren Earth Spirit dies
vs Sludgy
    - Ooze Touch > Acidic Goo > Acidic Goo (you will most likely die before the second cast of Acidic Goo)
    - Switch to Darkmoon Zeppelin > chain cast Missile until Sludgy dies
vs Darnak
    - It takes 3 missiles (assuming no crits) to get him in explode range:
    Missile > Decoy > Missile x2 > Explode (ideal)
    Missile > Decoy > Missile x3 > Explode -- works if you miss with only 1 missile
    Missile > Decoy > Missile x4 > pass > Explode -- works if you miss with 2 missiles in the first 4 fired, but the fifth better hit
    - If you crit with a missile you can explode early, as long as Darnak has under 619 health.
Note: your carry pet doesn't need to participate, as it will be the only one left alive at the end of the fight and will thus receive XP

Team 2: 24 rounds
vs Pandaren Earth Spirit
    - Scratch > Burrow > Dodge (the dodge makes 2 Stone Shots miss)
    - Continue with Scratch, and use Burrow each time it is off cooldown
vs Sludgy
    - Switch to Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling > Decoy > Breath until Sludgy dies
vs Darnak
    - Switch to carry pet > switch to Grasslands Cottontail (Darnak casts Stoneskin first, always)
    - If Dragonling died for good along with Sludgy or you finished off Sludgy with the rabbit start with Scratch
    - *Dodge > Scratch > Scratch > Burrow > Scratch <- repeat until Darnak dies
    *Scratch is used every round unless one of the 2 conditions below are true:
    Darnak has BOTH Stone Rush and Burrow off cooldown - he will always Burrow so you cast Scratch > Dodge
    Darnak has ONLY Stone Rush off cooldown - so you cast Burrow. Darnak should do no damage if this is done right.
Note: Any variant of Rabbit with a speed of 305+ will do. The Grasslands Cottontail [5-S/S] just has the best stats.

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Dos-Ryga - Location: Kun-Lai Summit (67, 84)
    Preferred Team: Burst Team 2
    Alternate Team: Burst Team 1
After fight heal at Cousin Mountainmusk, Kota Basecamp, Kun-Lai Summit (42, 69)

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Courageous Yon - Location: Kun-Lai Summit (35, 73)
Team 1: 17 rounds
vs Piqua
    - Emerald Bite > Emerald Presence > Emerald Bite until Piqua dies
vs Lapin
    - Emerald Presence > Proto-Strike > Emerald Bite until Lapin dies, note that if you miss at all
    - recast Emerald Presence when 1 round remains, use Proto-Strike when available
vs Bleat
    - Emerald Bite until your Emerald Proto-Whelp dies (do not kill Bleat, switch to carry pet instead!)
    - Switch to carry pet > switch to Darkmoon Tonk > Shock and Awe > *Missile > Ion Cannon
    *The Missile should be needed only if Shock and Awe misses and Bleat has more than 1000 health left
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Kafi - Location: Kun-Lai Summit (35, 56)
    Preferred Team: eXplode Team 1
    Alternate Team: Burst Team 1
Note: A stun at the wrong time can ruin the setup as Kafi, with a 292 speed, is always attacking first vs these teams.

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Burning Pandaren Spirit - Location: Townlong Steppes (57, 41)
Team 1: 17 rounds
vs Crimson
    - Crush > Stoneskin > Crush until Crimson dies
vs Pandaren Fire Spirit
    - Deflection > switch to Electrified Razortooth > Rip > Blood in the Water > *Devour
vs Glowy
    - *Rip > *Rip > Blood in the Water > *Rip until Electrified Razortooth dies (don't kill Glowy!)
    - Switch to carry pet > switch to Anubisath Idol > Stoneskin > Crush until the end (keep Stoneskin up)
Note: Glowy cannot hurt your Anubisath Idol once Stoneskin is up.
    * Devour lasts 2 turns, if it kills on turn 1 then you will only Rip once vs Glowy (if you live that long), Surge replaces Devour and the second and third Rip when using a croc.

After fight heal at Tigermistress Min-To, Shado-Pan Garrison, Townlong Steppes (50, 71)

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Seeker Zusshi - Location: Townlong Steppes (36, 52)
Team 1: 13 rounds
    1: Snarly [-] (1,1,2)
    2: Carry pet
    3: :!: Yellow Moth [4-P/P] (2,1,2)
    Alt1: Chuck/Muckbreath/Toothy (1,1,2)
vs Diamond
    - Rip > Blood in the Water > Surge until Diamond dies
vs Mollus
    - Rip > Surge (you should die at this point, but if not) > Blood in the Water > Surge until Snarly dies
    - Switch to carry pet > switch to Yellow Moth > Alpha Strike until Mollus dies
vs Skimmer
    - Cocoon Strike if Soothed (will cancel Sleep), Moth Dust when up, Alpha Strike otherwise
After fight if NOT doing Beasts of Fable heal at Handler Kla’vik, Klaxxi’vess, Dread Wastes (53, 32)

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Ti’un the Wanderer - Location: Townlong Steppes (72, 79)
    Preferred Team: eXplode Team 1
    Alternate Team: Burst Team 2
Note: a single pump can kill the water spirit and he has too much health for just Whirlpool & Surge of Power to kill him, even with a Howl-pumped Bite added in, making Burst Team 1 too RNG. If you attack with Val’kyr/Skull he could Wave your back line to pieces before he ever charges up and uses pump on your undead pet. Burst team 2 is now better, ending with Shock & Awe + Ion Cannon.

After fight heal at Tigermaster Liu-Do, Gao-Ran Battlefront, Townlong Steppes (74, 81)

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No-No - Location: Vale of Eternal Blossoms (73, 18)
    Preferred Team: Flight Team 1
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Aki the Chosen - Location: Vale of Eternal Blossoms (31, 74)
Team 1: 10 rounds
vs Chirrup
    - Bite > chain cast Leap until Chirrup dies (Leap gives a speed buff needed for Stormlash)
vs Stormlash
    - Black Claw > Zandalari raptor dies to Call Lightning
    - Switch to Clockwork Gnome > Build Turret > switch to carry pet > switch to Clockwork Gnome
vs Whiskers
    - Metal Fist unless you can use Build Turret
Note: if Bite crits twice it kills Chirrup, so using more than one is a bad choice, you must have the Leap speed buff
    Turret sometimes kills Stormlash in 1 volley but it is safest to expect carry pet to get hit once
Team 2: 19 rounds (longer but allows for carry pet to take no damage)
vs Chirrup
    - Shell Shield > chain cast Snap unless there is 1-round left on your Shell Shield (then recast it)
vs Stormlash
    - Whirlpool > chain cast Snap, unless there is 1-round left on your Shell Shield (then recast it)
vs Whiskers
    - Whirlpool > chain cast Snap but don’t kill Whiskers, pass if you need to until your Spirit Crab dies
    - Switch to carry pet > switch to Yellow Moth > Cocoon Strike vs Dive, Moth Dust when up, Slicing Wind otherwise
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Wastewalker Shu - Location: Dread Wastes (55, 37)
Team 1: 20 rounds
vs Crusher
    - Skitter until 1 round remains on Whirlpool > Cocoon Strike > Nature's Touch > repeat
vs Pounder
    - Cocoon Strike when Crusher’s last Whirlpool has 1 round left, Nature's Touch when available, Skitter otherwise
    - Usual order: Cocoon Strike > Nature's Touch > Skitter x3 > Nature's Touch > Skitter til Pounder dies
vs Mutilator
    - Switch to carry pet (will take no damage), switch to Tranquil Mechanical Yeti > Call Lightning > Ion Cannon
After fight heal at Handler Kla’vik, Klaxxi’vess, Dread Wastes (53, 32)

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Gorespine - Location: Dread Wastes (26, 50)
    Preferred Team: eXplode Team 1
    Alternate Team: Burst Team 2
After fight heal at Rough-rider Kim, Soggy’s Gamble, Dread Wastes (55, 69)

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Flowing Pandaren Spirit - Location: Dread Wastes (61, 87)
Team 2: 15 rounds
    1: Wildhammer Gryphon Hatchling [4-P/P] (1,1,2)
    2: Carry pet (needs 700+ health, non-elemental type)
    3: Tiny White Carp [-] (1,2,1)
    Alt1: Imperial Eagle Chick [4-P/P] (1,1,2), Amber Moth [8-P/S] (2,1,2)
    Alt3: Pandaren Water Spirit [-] (1,1,1), Emerald Proto-Whelp [4-P/P] (2,1,1)
vs Marley
    - Peck x2 > Lift Off > Peck until Marley dies
vs Tiptoe
    - Peck until your Wildhammer Gryphon Hatchling dies > switch to carry pet
    - Switch to Tiny White Carp > Water Jet until Tiptoe dies
    - Healing Wave whenever below 800 health as Water Jet can crit for over 600
vs Pandaren Water Spirit
    - Dive when there is 1-round left on Whirlpool and Geyser
    - Water Jet otherwise (if fight lasts longer, use Dive to avoid Geyser and it’s stun)
Note: If Wildhammer Gryphon Hatchling kills Tiptoe immediately switch to carry pet and then to Tiny White Carp
    If using the Pandaren Water Spirit you can use Whirlpool instead of Healing Wave, which can end fight sooner but is higher risk.

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Greyhoof - Location: Valley of the Four Winds (25, 78)
    Preferred Team: eXplode Team 1
    Alternate Team: Burst Team 2
After fight heal with personal revive / pet bandage (if needed before Skitterer Xi’a)

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Skitterer Xi’a - Location: Krasarang Wilds (36, 37)
    Preferred Team: Burst Team 1
    Alternate Team: eXplode Team 1
After fight heal with personal revive / pet bandage

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Mo'ruk - Location: Krasarang Wilds (62, 45)
Team 1: 17 rounds
vs Woodcarver
    - Missile > Decoy > Missile until Woodcarver dies
vs Lightstalker
    - Switch to Chrominius > Howl > Surge of Power
vs Needleback
    - Bite (if you can) until your Chrominius dies > switch to Darkmoon Zeppelin
    - Decoy when there is 0-1 round left on Headbutt's cooldown (blocking it is ideal, but stopping damage after it works, too)
    - Missile until Needleback has under 619 HP > Explode
Note: your carry pet doesn't need to participate, as it will be the only one left alive at the end of the fight and will thus receive XP

After fight heal at Su the Tamer, Halfhill, Valley of the Four Winds (55, 49)

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Farmer Nishi - Location: Valley of the Four Winds (46, 43)
Team 1: 14 rounds
    1: Eternal Strider [8-P/S] (1,2,2)
    2: Carry pet
    3: Darkmoon Tonk [-] (1,1,2)
    Alt1: Any strider or tiny goldfish of speed of 280+, higher power is best
    Alt3: Tranquil Mechanical Yeti [-] (1,1,2), Menagerie Custodian [-] (1,1,2)
vs Siren
    - Pump > Cleansing Rain > Pump > Pump > Water Jet (repeat Water Jet if it missed)
vs Toothbreaker
    - Pump > Cleansing Rain > Pump > Water Jet (repeat Water Jet if it missed)
vs Brood of Mothran
    - Pump > Water Jet until your Eternal Strider dies (usually will be immediately to Mothran’s Dive)
    switch to carry pet > switch to Darkmoon Tonk > Shock and Awe > Ion Canon
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Lucky Yi - Location: Valley of the Four Winds (40, 43)
    Preferred Team: Raptor Team 1
    Alternate Team: Burst Team 1
After fight heal at Su the Tamer, Halfhill, Valley of the Four Winds (55, 49)

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Ka’wi the Gorger - Location: Jade Forest (48, 70)
    Preferred Team: Raptor Team 1
    Alternate Teams: eXplode Team 1, Burst Team 1
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Hyuna of the Shrines - Location: Jade Forest (47, 53)
Team 1: 16 rounds
vs Skyshaper
    - Emerald Presence > Emerald Bite x2 > Emerald Presence > Emerald Bite
vs Fangor
    - Emerald Bite > Proto-strike > Emerald Bite until your Emerald Proto Whelp dies
    - Switch to carry pet > switch to Yellow Moth > Alpha Strike until Fangor dies
vs Dor the Wall
    - Cocoon Strike when Headbutt is up (or has 1-round left if you are slowed by Fangor’s debuff)
    - Moth Dust when up, Alpha Strike otherwise
Note: The extra Emerald Presence is so you will start the fight against Fangor with the bonus Dragonkin damage buff
    Also, if you don’t mind lengthening the fight, recast Emerald Presence when it has 1 round left vs Fangor as the ideal condition is to kill him with your Proto-Whelp and then have the Proto-Whelp eat the first Headbutt.
After fight if doing Beasts of Fable heal at Hong the Kindly, Dawn’s Blossom, Jade Forest (46, 43)

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Nitun - Location: Jade Forest (57, 29)
    Preferred Team: eXplode Team 1
    Alternate Team: Burst Team 1
After fight heal at Hong the Kindly, Dawn’s Blossom, Jade Forest (46, 43)

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Whispering Pandaren Spirit - Location: Jade Forest (28, 36)
Team 1: 15-17 rounds
vs Dusty
    - Moonfire > Ancient Blessing > Flamethrower > Flamerthrower > repeat unless Moth Dust sleeps.
    - If slept then just prioritize your abilities to be Ancient Blessing when up, Moonfire when up (and Dusty is not in a cocoon), Flamethrower otherwise. If you get slept twice it’s not likely you will be able to win, unfortunately.
vs Whispertail
    - Continue to prioritize your moves as Ancient Blessing > Moonfire > Flamethrower until one of you dies.
    - If Celestial Dragon dies switch to carry pet > switch to Chrominius-> Bite until Whispertail dies
vs Pandaren Air Spirit
    - switch to carry pet > switch to Chrominius > Howl > Bite > Surge of Power

Team 2: 12-14 rounds
vs Dusty
    - Moonfire > Arcane Blast until Dusty dies (should be 3 blasts)
    - if slept, Arcane Blast > Life Exchange > go back to first line
vs Whispertail
    - Life Exchange > Arcane Blast until Whispertail dies (usually twice)
    If Nether Fairie Dragon dies switch to carry pet > switch to Chrominius-> Bite until Whispertail dies
vs Spirit
    - switch to carry pet > switch to Chrominius > Howl > Bite > Surge of Power

After fight Hearth to Shrine, heal (personal revive / pet bandage / stable master outside), take portal to Shattrath

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Blood Knight Antari - Location: Shadowmoon Valley (30, 41)
Team 1: 14 rounds
    1: Scourged Whelpling [6-H/H] (2,2,1)
    2: Carry pet
    3: Flayer Youngling [5-S/S] (1,2,1)
    Alt1: Uncommon Scourged Whelpling [6-H/H], and rare [8-P/S], just more risk
    Alt2: Uncommon Flayer Youngling [5-S/S], and rare [8-P/S], [9-H/S], [11-S/B], just more risk
vs Arcanus
    - Death and Decay > Tail Sweep until Arcanus dies
vs Jadefire
    - Tail Sweep until your Scourged Whelpling dies > Plagued Blood on your resurrection round
    - Switch to carry pet > switch to Flayer Youngling > Blitz until Jadefire dies (Deflection if Conflagrate is up)
vs Netherbite
    - Deflection when Netherbite is under Phase Shift, Kick when up, Blitz otherwise
Team 2: 15 rounds
vs Arcanus
    - Tail Sweep > Tail Sweep > Healing Flame > Tail Sweep
vs Jadefire
    - Early Advantage if Jadefire has 500 more health than your Infinite Whelpling
    - Tail Sweep until your Infinite Whelpling dies > switch to Darkmoon Zeppelin > Missile until Jadefire dies
    - (Early Advantage makes the extra hit only after the 1st hit resolves and the opponent still has more health)
vs Netherbite
    - Decoy > Missile until Netherbite has 618HP or less
    - Explode (but NOT if he has Soul Ward or Phase Shift up or available, as he’s faster, then just Missile)
Note: your carry pet doesn't need to participate, as it will be the only one left alive at the end of the fight and will thus receive XP.

After fight Use Argent tabard / Ring of the Kirin Tor / Wormhole Generator: Northrend / portal to Dalaran

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Major Payne - Location: Icecrown (77, 19)
Team 1: 22 rounds
vs Grizzle
    - Immolation > Cauterize > switch to carry pet > switch to Cogblade Raptor
    - Exposed Wounds > Batter until Grizzle dies
vs Beakmaster X-225
    - Exposed Wounds > Batter until Beakmaster dies
vs Bloom
    - Exposed Wounds > Screech > Batter > Screech until Cogblade Raptor dies
    - Switch to Corefire Imp > Immolation > (cauterize if needed) > chain cast Rush
    - Use Cauterize when needed, right after Entangling Roots gives a big heal, but safer is better - use it!
Note: If Corefire Imp is stunned before using Cauterize just pass and use it after recovering, then switch to carry pet

Team 2: 22 rounds
vs Grizzle - if carry pet can take one hit from Rampage
    - Dodge > Flurry > switch to carry pet > switch to Blue Clockwork Rocket Bot
    - (Grizzle opened with Rampage) Sticky Grenade > Minefield > Batter until Grizzle dies
    - (Grizzle opened with Bash) Minefield > Sticky Grenade > Batter until Grizzle dies
vs Grizzle - if you want carry pet to take no damage
    - Dodge > if Grizzle did not open with Rampage, then Forfeit and start again
    - Flurry > Burrow > switch to carry pet > switch to Blue Clockwork Rocket Bot
    - Sticky Grenade > Minefield > Batter until Grizzle dies
vs Beakmaster X-225
    - Sticky Grenade > Batter until Rocket Bot dies
    - Switch to Grasslands Cottontail > *Dodge > Flurry until Beakmaster dies
    * Only very rarely will this not turn out to be the best move
vs Bloom
    - use Burrow or Dodge whenever Entangling Roots has been cast on you, Flurry otherwise

Optional after fight go to Capital City then portal to Deepholm (use Potion of Deepholm / Tol Barad tabard)

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Bordin Steadyfist - Location: Deepholm (49, 57)
Team 1: 13 rounds
vs Ruby
    - Rip > Blood in the Water > Surge until Ruby dies
vs Crystallus
    - Rip > Rip > Blood in the Water (Surge if you have > 400-500 health) > Surge until Snarly dies
    - Switch to carry pet > switch to Pandaren Water Spirit > Water Jet until Crystallus dies
vs Fracture
    - If Snarly is still alive immediately switch to carry pet > switch to Pandaren Water Spirit
    - Whirlpool > Dive when there is 1-round left on Elementium Bolt > Water Jet until Fracture dies
Optional after fight return to Capital City then portal to Mount Hyjal, heal at Aili Greenwillow (63, 23)

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Brok - Location: Mount Hyjal (61, 32)
Team 1: 16 rounds
vs Kali
    - Attack with your carry pet > switch to Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling
    - Breath > Decoy > Breath until Kali dies
vs Ashtail
    - Bombing Run > Breath until your Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling dies
    - Switch to Emperor Crab - Snap until Ashtail dies
vs Incinderous
    - Shell Shield > Renewing Mists > Snap until Incinderous dies
Optional after fight return to Capital City then portal to Twilight Highlands

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Goz Banefury - Location: Twilight Highlands (56, 56)
Team 1: 13 rounds
    1: Snarly [-] (1,1,2)
    2: Carry pet
    3: Darkmoon Tonk [-] (1,1,2)
    Alt1: Chuck/Muckbreath/Toothy (1,1,2)
    Alt3: Tranquil Mechanical Yeti [-] (1,1,2), Menagerie Custodian [-] (1,1,2)
vs Twilight
    - Rip > Blood in the Water > Surge
vs Amythel
    - Rip > Rip > Blood in the Water > Rip until your Snarly dies
    - Switch to carry pet > switch to Darkmoon Tonk > Missile until Amythel dies
vs Helios
    - Shock and Awe > Missile (just in case he heals unless he is stunned) > Ion Canon
Optional after fight return to Capital City then portal to Uldum, heal at NPC Name (xx, xx)

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Obalis - Location: Uldum (56, 41)
Team 1: 20 rounds
vs Pyth
    - Minefield > Missile > Ion Canon
vs Spring
    - Missile until your Darkmoon Tonk dies > switch to carry pet > switch to Emerald Proto Whelp
    - Emerald Presence > chain cast Emerald Bite until Spring dies, recasting Emerald Presence when 1 round left on it
vs Clatter
    - Emerald Presence > Emerald Dream
    - chain cast Emerald Bite until the end, recasting Emerald Presence when 1 round left on it
Note: You may wish to Emerald Presence > Emerald Dream immediately after Spring sleeps you with Moth Dust as well.

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FINISHED!!
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:!: Beasts of Fable (BoF) Strategies::!: Each entry has up to 3 extra lines detailing how the team stacks up vs the various beasts:
Ideal: the team will win without any issues at all, the BoF cannot really mess with the order of attacks at all
Good: the team can win most of the time, but the BoF can sometimes wreck it with a stun, 1 to 2 hit kill, root, etc
Poor: the team should never be used against this BoF, it just does not work well (heals, RNG, speed issues, etc)

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Beasts of Fable (Burst 1 – B1) - - 6 rounds
Ideal: Gorespine, Greyhoof, Lucky Yi
Good: Dos-Ryga, Ka’wi the Gorger, Kafi, Nitun, Skitterer Xi’a, Ti’un the Wanderer
Poor: No-No

The order you follow against every opponent is the same:
    - Unholy Ascension > switch to Pandaren Water Spirit > Geyser > Whirlpool
    - Switch to Chrominius > Howl > Surge of Power
At the end of round 5 both Geyser and Whirlpool detonate at the same time with a +125% boost (25% from Unholy Ascension and 100% from Howl). The enemy takes a lot of damage and is stunned (except for the critters Lucky Yi, Ka’wi the Gorger, and Nitun). The Surge of Power will also have the damage buff and will finish off the enemy, should it be needed.

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Beasts of Fable (Burst 2 – B2) - - 5 rounds
Ideal: Dos-Ryga, Gorespine, Greyhoof, Lucky Yi, Nitun
Good: Ka’wi the Gorger, Kafi, Skitterer Xi’a, Ti’un the Wanderer
Poor: No-No

The order you follow against every opponent is the same:
    - Geyser > Whirlpool > switch to Chrominius > Howl > *Surge of Power
    * If Chrominius dies before Surge of Power:
    - Switch to Darkmoon Tonk > Shock & Awe > Ion Cannon
At the end of round 4 both Geyser and Whirlpool detonate at the same time with a +100% boost from Howl. The enemy takes a lot of damage and is stunned (except for the critters Lucky Yi, Ka’wi the Gorger, and Nitun). The Surge of Power will also have the damage buff and will usually finish off the enemy, should it be needed.

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Beasts of Fable (Flight 1 – F1) - - 6-10 rounds
Ideal: No-No
Poor: Dos-Ryga, Gorespine, Greyhoof, Kafi, Ka’wi the Gorger, Lucky Yi, Nitun, Skitterer Xi’a, Ti’un the Wanderer

Aiming always for 310+ speed to allow you to go first even wounded is a good idea. Almost any rare moth, or any rare bird with Lift-Off, of breed [5-S/S] will have a high enough speed. Here are some other good choices, though:

    Polly [8-P/S] (1,1,1)
    Silky Moth [11-S/B] (1,1,2)
    Crow [5-S/S] (1,2,2) (Call Darkness + Nocturnal Strike hit No-No hard)
This fight is a little varied due to No-No’s somewhat random use of Dive and Beaver Dam, so you should react to his abilities as shown in the table below:
No-No’s condition - - Your Action
on the surface + no Beaver Dam - - Moth Dust/Alpha Strike/Slicing Wind/Call Darkness > Nocturnal Strike
underwater + no Beaver Dam - - Cocoon Strike/Lift-Off (if you have them) or Pass (or other non-attack)
anywhere + Beaver Dam up - - Pass and let him knock it down, he’ll often waste his Dive against it :D

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Beasts of Fable (Raptor 1 – R1) - - 3-6 rounds
Ideal: Lucky Yi , Ka’wi the Gorger
Poor: Dos-Ryga, Gorespine, Greyhoof, Kafi, Nitun, No-No, Skitterer Xi’a, Ti’un the Wanderer

    1/2: Zandalari Kneebiter [-*] (2,2,2) - - breed list: [8-P/S], [10-S/B], [5-S/S], [4-P/P]
    - OR - Zandalari Anklerender [-*] (2,1,2) - - breed list: [18-P/S], [20-S/B], [15-S/S], [14-P/P]
    3: Chrominius [-] (1,1,2) / Darkmoon Tonk [-] (1,1,2) / any hard-hitting pet
    *Choose based on opponent - vs Lucky Yi best is right to left, vs Ka’wi best is left to right
    *Any breed can work, though vs Ka’wi the non-[4-P/P][14-P/P] breeds are better as they go first
The basic order you follow against every opponent is the same:
    - Black Claw > Hunting Party > Bloodfang/Leap > (if needed) switch to next raptor
    - Hunting Party (if Black Claw is up) or Black Claw > Hunting Party (if not)
- Lucky Yi usually will die to the first raptor, I have yet to not kill him by round 4.
- Chrominius as a third pet will allow you to Howl > Surge of Power if things go horribly bad against Ka’wi.
- Darkmoon Tonk as a third pet can do Shock and Awe and Ion Cannon for those bad Ka’wi attempts, as well.

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Beasts of Fable (eXplode 1 – X1) - - 4-7 rounds
Ideal: Gorespine, Greyhoof, Nitun, Skitterer Xi’a, Ti’un the Wanderer
Good: Kafi
Poor: Dos-Ryga, Ka’wi the Gorger, No-No, Lucky Yi

*The pet list for this team has many options but the less health your slot 2/3 exploders have, the more damage you have to do before you can be ensured of a win. So a 1B turnip plus 2C and 3C exploders would be a less than ideal team.

The basic order you follow against every opponent is the same:
    - Illuminate/Sunlight > switch to exploder #1 > *use best attack > Explode
    - switch to exploder #2 > *use best attack > Explode > auto-switch to first pet > win or…
    - Illuminate/Sunlight > Beam/Light/Lash/Leech Seed (or just watch your last pet die and curse Blizzard’s RNG)
*This is where you have to find what works best vs each BoF with the team you assemble. Personally I use a lantern with a Zeppelin as my #1 so I can Decoy > Missile > Explode, even if the BoF hits him hard he’ll get off the Decoy. My #2 is a Pet Bombling now and he can just explode, even against Ti’un the Wanderer. Kafi’s headbutt can still ruin my day, though. There are too many “What-Ifs” to cover all the options, so play around with the exploders you have to see what works.

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Darkmoon Faire Strategy
Jeremy Feasel - Location: Darkmoon Faire (47, 62)
Team 1: 15 rounds

NOTE: Due to the changes the current strategy I have is no longer viable as the Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling cannot Decoy & Explode. I will update this section once the Faire comes back around on October 6th and I can fight it again.
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Re: Guide to tamer daily pet battles/BoF quests (5.4) Vetera

Postby Rendigar » September 28th, 2013, 6:45 pm

Updates will be briefly listed in this post, for those looking to know what changed, but I'll try to keep the main guide post to just the current team setups that fit the criteria. This is a work in progress, as all guides to a changing game are, and everyone's contributions are what makes this a useful document.

*01* Added Snail/Zeppelin team for Thundering Pandaran Spirit, thanks to Yamun for posting it and Nytemarerulez for extra testing (verifying any breed makes no difference in timing). Note the rabbit team works perfectly fine, but it's more of a pain to use - especially w/o a {5-S/S] Grasslands Cottontail

*02* Changed Flowing Pandaren Spirit to use Gryphon sans Eagle, expanded Major Payne Rabbit/Bot strat[b], thanks to Stencil for the general discussion and the in-depth analysis and design of his Major Payne strat (which was orignally just paraphrased here).

*Oct 5, 2013* [b] Format Update
Added :!: notation for required pets, added Alt#: notation for viable alternate pets (generally when moves are identical or near identical in functionality). Changed Flowing Pandaren Spirit to use Tiny White Carp sans Emerald Proto-Whelp. Changed Whispering Pandaren Spirit to use Celestial Dragon or Nether Fairie Dragon sans Anubisath Idol.
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Postby Quintessence » September 28th, 2013, 9:43 pm

Thank you for taking the time to create an up-to-date guide for 5.4, as our 5.3 guide will no longer be updated.

We'll move the finished product to the Community Guides section in the near future. :)
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Re: Guide to tamer daily pet battles/BoF quests (5.4) Vetera

Postby Ebil » September 29th, 2013, 9:46 am

For Jeremy Feasel I use a simple team of

Onyxian Whelpling 2,1,1 (But any dragonkin with Tail Sweep, Healing Flame and Lift-Off will work)
Harbinger of Flame 2,2,2
Tranquil Mechanical Yeti 1,1,2 ( You will not want to use Calling lighting at all.)

Lead with Onyxian Whelping vs Darkmoon Eye
Tail Sweep, Healing Flame, Tail Sweep, Tail Sweep

Onyxian Whelping vs Tonk
Here there will be a little bit of play depending on if the Tonk Uses Lock On first and the amount of health you have. If he using Lock On you will use Lift Off, Healing Flame, Tail Sweep. If rng is not in your favor he will kill your pet before you can damage him or before you can use Healing Flame.

Harbinger of Flame vs Tonk
Immolate, Burn, Conflagrate

Harbinger of Flame vs Evil Little Monkey

His goal is to soak the stun and once stunned switch out to the Yeti.

Tranquil Mechanical Yeti vs Monkey
Metal Fist, Metal Fist, Ion Cannon
Even if the bananas kill your Yeti you still should have the Harbinger of Flame up to ensure the win.

Now I will admit that this does have a small chance of failing but about 98% of the time it is solid.

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Postby Rendigar » September 29th, 2013, 10:46 am

You just pointed out one thing that the guide forgot to mention: the goal is to allow you (in the case of the master tamers) to bring a "carry pet" to gain large amounts of XP. Building a team of 3 level 25's to beat the master tamers is (mostly) rock/paper/scissors. Being aboe to beat them with only 2 level 25's is a bit more complicated (and thus the original guide this is based on, was born). I'll add in a statement at the top so people will realize it. Thanks!

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Postby Nytemarerulez » September 29th, 2013, 11:58 am

1st thanks for updating the guide you beat me to it, was planing on making an updated version
2nd this is the vet guide there should never be an alt team, this is where you come for end all be all team (other wise good job)
3rd you got lot of teams wrong man, and order in what you do, or the attack you use
4th BOF only needs 2x teams 2x Lanterns 2x Netherspace Abyssal, and 2x MiniFernal and yes they must be HH for this to work, all matches in on round 4 with No-NO beinn up to 6(most I had)
5th - you can drop some of the heals as they are not needed.
6th few of the fights you mention carry pet have 500+ hp is not needed as they take no damage
7th there another way to get to blood knight, and to Major payne

- For Blood knight you can use Blessed Medallion of Karabor - takes you right in front of BT
- for Mayor Payne you can use Wormhole Generator: Northrend pick Icecrown and you right there(for Eng)

will not recheck each team and provide an update to the ones that you made a mistake on

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Re: Guide to tamer daily pet battles/BoF quests (5.4) Vetera

Postby Nytemarerulez » September 29th, 2013, 12:15 pm

BOF Teams Explode team 1& 2 Lantern + Minifernal (HH) + Netherspace Abyssal (HH)

Thundering Pandaren Spirit - Location: Vale of Eternal Blossoms (67, 13)
17 rounds - thanks to Yamum
1:Any Snail [any breed] (1,1,1)
2: Darkmoon Zeppelin [-](1,2,2)
3: Carry pet

vs Pandaren Earth Spirit
- Dive(charge) > Dive(Release) >Goo > Touch > Touch - Earth dead
vs Sludgy
- touch > Goo> Touch(only hit it if he missed an attack) - make sure Goo is up before dieing - 9/10 you die before you 3rd attack on him
Switch to Darkmoon Zep - Missile (until dead)
vs Darnak
Missile > Decoy > Missile > Missile > Explode
Carry pet get XPS

Courageous Yon - Location: Kun-Lai Summit (35, 73) - just have the attack and order wrong

vs Piqua
- Emerald Bite > Emerald Presence > Emerald Bite until Piqua dies
vs Lapin
- Emerald Bite > Proto-Strike > Emerald Bite Lapin dies, note that if you miss at all
- keep use bite
vs Bleat
- Switch to carry pet - he never attack 1st round
-switch to tonk > Shock & Awe > Ion Cannon - if you missed Shock do missile than than Ion Cannon
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Postby Nytemarerulez » September 29th, 2013, 12:19 pm

Aki the Chosen - Location: Vale of Eternal Blossoms (31, 74)
Team 1: 10 rounds
1: Zandalari Anklerender [14-P/P] (1,2,2)
2: Clockwork Gnome [-] (1,1,1)
3: Carry pet (needs 500+ health) - take no damage
vs Chirrup
- Bite >Bite > Primal Cry > Bite
vs Stormlash
- Black Claw > Zandalari raptor dies to Call Lightning
- Switch to Clockwork Gnome > Build Turret > Stormlash dies
vs Whiskers
- Switch to carry pet - Whiskers will dive so no damage
-switch to Clockwork Gnome > Build Terret > Metal Fist - Whiskers died unless you got many crits with build turret than he do Survival so just keep metal fisting until he dies

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Postby Rendigar » September 29th, 2013, 12:26 pm

Nytemarerulez wrote:1st thanks for updating the guide you beat me to it, was planing on making an updated version
2nd this is the vet guide there should never be an alt team, this is where you come for end all be all team (other wise good job)
3rd you got lot of teams wrong man, and order in what you do, or the attack you use
4th BOF only needs 2x teams 2x Lanterns 2x Netherspace Abyssal, and 2x MiniFernal and yes they must be HH for this to work, all matches in on round 4 with No-NO beinn up to 6(most I had)
5th - you can drop some of the heals as they are not needed.
6th few of the fights you mention carry pet have 500+ hp is not needed as they take no damage
7th there another way to get to blood knight, and to Major payne
- For Blood knight you can use Blessed Medallion of Karabor - takes you right in front of BT
- for Mayor Payne you can use Wormhole Generator: Northrend pick Icecrown and you right there(for Eng)


1st - You are welcome, the community supplies the information, I am just trying to bring it together.
2nd - Not everyone has the same pets, nor wants to, supplying 2 teams that both accomplish the same goals is not "wrong", I am sorry I disagree with you on what a "Guide" should be.
3rd - Every team in here has been tested repeatedly since 5.4 has been released and works. If you have a specific question/critique please post it and we can validate it and update the fight as needed. But remember the goal is to ALWAYS win, not win when RNG favors the player.
4th - BoF team options are listed because the "one team" does not always work (and not every veteran wants to farm an HH minfernal/abyssal set), you CAN lose if you use the explode team you describe against every enemy, for example. Additionally, by listing the different teams someone could use more than one to reduce the number of healing stops (which I know some people appreciate - less healing stops = faster completion).
5th - Primary focus of goal is to ENSURE a win - pullling out a heal would work in many cases, but NOT if the enemy gets a crit. Using an extra turn to heal is better than a loss and restart. Your mileage may vary, though.
6th - Because I did not specify exact breeds it is possible in those fights they WILL take a hit, the idea again is to avoid semi-bad RNG messing with you and still win. (Against Aki the turret does not ALWAYS kill the dragon).
7th - I have those items, but they are not easy to acquire (the 2nd requires Engineering as a profession), so I didn't list them. You can also use the Engineering teleport to get to Winterspring faster, too. And there are many other teleport objects in the game, but that's not the primary goal so I left off just listing them.
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Re: Guide to tamer daily pet battles/BoF quests (5.4) Vetera

Postby Nytemarerulez » September 29th, 2013, 12:28 pm

Major Payne - Location: Icecrown (77, 19)
Team 1: 22 rounds
1: Corefire Imp [-] (2,1,2)
2: Cogblade Raptor [5-S/S] (2,2,1)
3: Carry pet (needs 500+ health) take no damage
vs Grizzle
- Immolation > Cauterize Wild Magic> switch to carry pet> switch to Cogblade Raptor
- Exposed Wounds > Batter until Grizzle dies
vs Beakmaster X-225
- Exposed Wounds > Batter until Beakmaster dies
vs Bloom
- Exposed Wounds > Screech > Batter > Screech until Cogblade Raptor dies (If beak hit your failsafe than skip wounds and just do Screech)
-Switch to carry pet
- Switch to Corefire Imp > Immolation > Wild Magic > Rush x3
Note: If Corefire Imp is stunned before using wild magic just pass and use it after recovering, then switch to cogblade raptor

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Re: Guide to tamer daily pet battles/BoF quests (5.4) Vetera

Postby Nytemarerulez » September 29th, 2013, 12:43 pm

4th - BoF team options are listed because the "one team" does not always work (and not every veteran wants to farm an HH minfernal/abyssal set), you CAN lose if you use the explode team you describe against every enemy, for example. Additionally, by listing the different teams someone could use more than one to reduce the number of healing stops (which I know some people appreciate - less healing stops = faster completion).


I have used the exploded teams on every BOF and do it everyday they will work - for No-NO you start like normal and use Illuminate, switch to 1st explode pet > if No-NO dive and damn has taken a hit from Illuminate than use explode like normal as his give will break the dam for you. Now since both are on cd pick 2nd explode pet and use explode and match is over.

you will always do Illuminate like normal and change depending on what No-NO does -if Dive and Dam off CD No-NO sure to use them you either get a Dam on 1st turn on 2nd turn I seen - all you got to do is pass until he used dive and dam than explode being Magic you not in danger of him killing you


5th - Primary focus of goal is to ENSURE a win - pullling out a heal would work in many cases, but NOT if the enemy gets a crit. Using an extra turn to heal is better than a loss and restart. Your mileage may vary, though.


What I mean here is lot of the teams don't use the same pets so you don't need to heal that offten - example I use 2x explode teams, so I can do Thunder spirit, BOF 1, Yon, BOF 2, and Fire spirit all before having to use a heal, as non of the pet in those teams are shared. Now I changed my Fire one as I got lil''deathwing so I don't need to heal until after Seeker but if going off normal fire team you wouldn't need to heal for the 1st time until after him. This of course is use the explode team and having 2 of them.

Also note I farmed 2x Minfernal but you can do it with just 1x Lantern and 2x Netherspace Abyssal if you want - I using 2 as it cuts down on healing. Sine you can buy the Netherspace just like the Idol used it not a big deal - Hell you can even do 3x Netherspace Abyssal ad 1x MiniFernal or another pet that has 3rd highest health and be good

7th - I have those items, but they are not easy to acquire (the 2nd requires Engineering as a profession), so I didn't list them. You can also use the Engineering teleport to get to Winterspring faster, too. And there are many other teleport objects in the game, but that's not the primary goal so I left off just listing them.


They were alt items as not everyone with have the tabard -just another suggestion for those who have it, or want to get it, and who happen to be eng.

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Postby Nytemarerulez » September 29th, 2013, 12:50 pm

For Fire spirit and Blood Knight I use Lil'Deathwing and since that not easy gotten I will not comment on them - as my strategy is different - so what you have is fine

For Water spirit I still use the old team with the vampire bat as it still works for me - so I will leave this along as well - your is good

for Air I use Double PP Nexus Whelping as it can kill fast - little RNG with the attack but I leave the default one. Also for Hyuna I also use a Nexus for her, but RNG so we leave that along. I very rarely lose with any of my teams, only on Air have I had a problem and had to restart. Good new is 2x Nexus mean if you get sleep on turn 1 you can forfeit and switch the around as Air spirit doesn't do much so you don't need to worry about having to have full health for it. Now if you get slept 2 times than you need to heal
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Postby Rendigar » September 29th, 2013, 1:09 pm

Hmmm, you know you bring up another good point - I should add in an assumption that there will be no requirements for duplicates of any particular pet. Because you can definitely make it easier in some fights by having two of the same pet, but many people don't like having the extras in their pet journal.

Personally I have 2 complete "burst" teams and can field 2 different explode teams, too. But I was trying to stick to the "no more than 1 of a kind" idea with the guide because I've seen many posts commenting along the lines of "but I don't have/want 2!".

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Postby Stencil » September 29th, 2013, 6:26 pm

I think the guide should definitely contain the best strats even if they require hard to get or unavailable pets. When that's the case, though, there should just be additional strategies and include one using obtainable pets. So, I'm glad to see you took that exact approach for b]Aki[/b] and listed both strats. I can easily see the Clockwork Gnome having availability issues for some people and its the only pet with Build Turret that I know of.

Since you did list two teams for Aki, you might list the the Snarly/Vampiric Batling team for Zusshi. The Batling really is outstanding in that fight. I always finish off Mollus in two Bites, with the timing being perfect because he hits us with goo on that last turn. The goo is a good thing because it prevents the sleep from happening. Being undead also means we don't have to worry about Pump killing us because we'll finish that round and have one more available. I've killed that boss with a few different Flyers before and its never felt as fast or as solid as doing it with the Vampiric Batling.

I use an Electrified Razortooth on the Burning Pandaren Spirit instead of Snarly since he takes less damage from the Cyclone. Might be worth adding as a note that it can be used there instead ... On the other hand, people are less likely going to want a choice of alternate pets there since they will likely already have or will level a Snarly anyway since they're useful in so many fights ... its not that important; I'm not going care in the least if you don't add it in.

Along the same lines, could probably have a note on Wastewalker Shu saying that a Tonk or Menagerie Custodian can be substituted for the Yeti. I've not had Pounder reapply Sandstorm so the Yeti's ability to change the weather isn't as important as it once was.

For the Flowing Pandaren Spirit, I've previously claimed that the Imperial Eagle Chick is the best. But it can be really annoying when you're only getting one hit from Slicing Wind. I'm switching over to using a P/P Wildhammer Gryphon Hatchling now as it has the same stats but can replace Slicing Wind with Peck which is more consistent.

Against Farmer Nishi, you can optimize the Brood section by changing it to Pump > swap to Tonk > Ion Cannon.

I've been getting 12 round kills against the Whispering Pandaren Spirit using a P/P Nether Faerie Dragon (Arcane Blast, Life Exchange, Moonfire) and Chrominius. The only "problem" I've had is that when Whispertail dies in 3 rounds, Wild Winds is still up when I pass my carry pet through and it takes 100 points of damage or so. If you have a level 1 carry pet, you can just grind the Nether Faerie Dragon to death and do a death swap; you'll just spend a couple more rounds on the fight.
vs Dusty
- Moonfire > Arcane Blast x3 > Dusty dies
- if slept, Arcane Blast > Life Exchange > go back to first line
vs Whispertail
- Life Exchange > Arcane Blast til Whispertail dies (usually twice)
vs Spirit
- swap to carry pet
- swap to Chrominius
- Howl > Bite > Surge of Power


My Grasslands Cottontail/Blue Clockwork Rocket Bot strat for Major Payne has been edited instead of just copied from here and there are some mistakes. First thing is that the Grasslands Cottontail is not a must have for the fight; it's just the best rabbit for the job (like vs the Thundering Pandaren Spirit). What is pretty much mandatory is that the Rocket Bot be of the S/S breed so that it is faster than Beakmaster.

I wrote a couple of paragraphs talking about changes made in the action sequences and why they were bad, but I think instead I'll just repost my version of the actions and ask you to please use it in the guide instead.
Team 2: ~22 rounds?
1: Grasslands Cottontail (S/S) (2,2,1) (Flurry, Dodge, Burrow)
2: Carry pet
3: Blue Clockwork Rocket Bot (S/S) (2,2,1) (Batter, Minefield, Sticky Grenade)

vs Grizzle - if carry pet can take one hit from Rampage
- Dodge > Flurry > swap to Carry pet > swap to Rocket Bot
- (Grizzle opened with Rampage) Sticky Grenade > Minefield > Batter until Grizzle dies
- (Grizzle opened with Bash) Minefield > Sticky Grenade > Batter until Grizzle dies
vs Grizzle - if you want carry pet to take no damage
- Dodge
- if Grizzle did not open with Rampage, then Forfeit and start again
- Flurry > Burrow > swap to Carry Pet > swap Rocket Bot
- Sticky Grenade > Minefield > Batter until Grizzle dies
vs Beakmaster
- Sticky Grenade > Batter until Rocket Bot dies
- select Grasslands Cottontail
- Dodge (only very rarely will this not turn out to be the best move)
- Flurry until Beakmaster dies
vs Bloom
- use Burrow or Dodge whenever Entangling Roots has been cast on you
- Flurry Bloom to death



I did a bunch of thinking about Moruk and Feasel back when when it was first found on the ptr that changes were being made to those pets. My take on the Feasel fight was that a Mechanical Dragonling with (Breath, Bombing Run, Explode) should actually be better than the old combination of (Breath, Decoy, Explode). I posted my analysis here if you'd like to see my reasoning. It turned out that we can still do Decoy/Explode with the Zeppelin against Moruk (though I've been going with Bombing Run/Decoy) so that part of the post feel free to ignore if you want to.

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Postby Nytemarerulez » September 29th, 2013, 6:34 pm

Rendigar wrote:Hmmm, you know you bring up another good point - I should add in an assumption that there will be no requirements for duplicates of any particular pet. Because you can definitely make it easier in some fights by having two of the same pet, but many people don't like having the extras in their pet journal.

Personally I have 2 complete "burst" teams and can field 2 different explode teams, too. But I was trying to stick to the "no more than 1 of a kind" idea with the guide because I've seen many posts commenting along the lines of "but I don't have/want 2!".


that cool, not big fan of having 2 common pet - 2x rare pets I cool with usually - hell I got 2x Vampire Bats - so which I could give one to my friend who missed out - that another problem all together

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Postby Foolishfool » September 29th, 2013, 11:31 pm

I've swapped in a Nexus Whelpling for the Emerald Proto against Hyuna of the Shrines and it feels faster (though I spose prone to occasional RNG). The speed increase is probably worth that chance though.

Chi-Chi seems ideal against the water (flowing) spirit rather than other flying pets. The 3rd pet isn't really needed but I'd probably just bring a Crocodile of some description for a fast/safe finish. Chi-Chi is also very good against Wastewalker Shu.

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Postby Nytemarerulez » September 30th, 2013, 12:18 am

Foolishfool wrote:I've swapped in a Nexus Whelpling for the Emerald Proto against Hyuna of the Shrines and it feels faster (though I spose prone to occasional RNG). The speed increase is probably worth that chance though.

Chi-Chi seems ideal against the water (flowing) spirit rather than other flying pets. The 3rd pet isn't really needed but I'd probably just bring a Crocodile of some description for a fast/safe finish. Chi-Chi is also very good against Wastewalker Shu.


Post what skillz you use and the order you do it in, love to see it - I have enough come Tuesday for my next one - got tiger 1st time, so if Chi-Chi is good I get him next

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Postby Foolishfool » September 30th, 2013, 1:23 am

In essence, use Ethereal when the big burst turns are going to go off (just watch the debuff countdown), otherwise use Alpha Strike. Take tranquility in the other slot.

For the flowing spirit, you can swap the carry pet in and out during the elemental's first 2 turns as they are geyser->whirlpool, or I guess start with the carry pet against marley, attack once, then swap in Chi-Chi on turn 2, as these turns are Whirlpool->Dive.

For Shu, dodge the Whirlpool from the first pet when necessary with Ethereal, dodge either of the first or second turn of the elemental's stuff as convenient as both are harder-hitting attacks, use Tranquility on the 3rd turn against said elemental. Guess when the next two big hits are coming and Ethereal one of them, or just finish it off. You can swap in a carry pet on the first turn of the 3rd pet, and then use whatever your favourite mechanical is to finish the battle.

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Postby Rendigar » September 30th, 2013, 7:24 am

Re: Stencil (not going to quote as your post is long and contains alot of good info).

I listed more than one strategy because a) they have been proven to work well and b) they obey the rules of the guide - no hard/impossible to get pets (Vampiric Batling is NOT an option for a new player who happens to pet battle). Not everyone will agree, but the idea is to make the guide useful to a broader range of people.

My fellow tester always used the Electrified Razortooth instead of Snarly, but what I could not get around was the lack of a "goes first" move which makes several fights go smoother. So I stuck to the crocs (who all have the same moveset). I will run a couple dozen tests on the fights when I can, though, because I'm probably just being too cautious (I am VERY cautious and the object is to win as often as possible).

Wastewalker Shu: The only reason to not use a Tonk/Custodian is that 5% miss chance on Shock & Awe. Otherwise, yes they replace the Yeti nicely. But we can get buried in "this pet or that pet can also do that" and the guide will be 10 more pages. :D

Flowing Pandaren Spirit: I agree with you there it can be completely frustrating to hit once instead of 2-3 times, I'll update that fight, I think have the P/P Gryphon - but I might not, it has a ton of breeds, but I know you are right - consistency is key. And by my logic above for Shu I'm not sure listing the moth version of the strategy should be listed as it's not anywhere near as smooth as the Gryphon (or Eagle) was. But it is a different pet entirely, argh...

Farmer Nishi: I think you missed that you don't start with the carry pet now, so "Pump > swap to Tonk > Ion Cannon" wont get your carry pet any XP.

Whispering Pandaren Spirit: I expect that will go into the guide as fast as I can test it (I really HATE this fight's RNG nonsense). Giving people a second solid strategy should help alot of people get past him with less teeth grinding.

Major Payne: Thank you for reposting it, I lost track of your original post and only had the notes I'd made on what had worked for me in my daily runs. Being able to bring a carry pet who takes no damage might appeal to many - I have the "bad" habit of levelling all pets to 10 before I use them on the circuit, it only takes a few fights without a sausage and I tend to get 10-12 to level 10 so I can get 4 of them to 24-25 a day for 3 days before I need to do it again.

Moruk / Feasel: Once the DMF comes back around I'll run through your post. Since the current Decoy/Explode works with the Zeppelin vs Moruk I don't think it needs to be altered, but I like the no-miss with Bombing Run so I better test it.

Thanks for your responses (and keep up your solid analysis of mechanics!)

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Postby Foobles » September 30th, 2013, 3:19 pm

For Flowing Water Spirit, I found a strat that works a bit faster than the current set up recommended:

P/P Imperial Eagle Chick [1/1/2]
Carry Pet
Whatever pet you want.

Imperial chick can solo all three extremely easy. Use Lift Off to avoid Dive/Pump/Whirlpool, refresh Cyclone, win. I took Emerald Proto as back up, but didn't even use it.

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