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BreedIds Whats the best breed for the best Pet? (Info here)

Postby Darky28 » October 11th, 2012, 3:55 am

Howdy

Since the same pet with the same quality can have different breed Ids and therefore different stats makes it interresting to know which rares to keep and which rared to dump before leveling them to 25.

I've made a neat little Web-Application which pulls the info for all your pets and displays them in an informative table.
http://schaffhauser.me/Warcraft moved to http://petsear.ch

You can calculate how your pets will turn out on every level (1-25) so you can see which pet / breedId you want to keep.

Just enter your Region, Realm and Charactername and hit the "Fetch" button and you see your pets like this:
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Enjoy the Pet hunting for nice breeds!!!

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Re: BreedIds Whats the best breed for the best Pet? (Info he

Postby Elriel » October 11th, 2012, 4:51 am

Also FF user. When selecting the region for the petlist the servernames don't update.

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Postby Darky28 » October 11th, 2012, 5:02 am

Kyuss wrote:awesome, thanks a lot.

tho i can't see anything on the petlist section of your site.
no idea if it's my browser (ff) or anything else.

cheers


Try now. I made a change for FF users
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Postby Mercedia » October 11th, 2012, 6:29 am

I love this pet listing - thank you for taking the time and effort to make it! Any chance you could make it sortable? Thanks,
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Postby Darky28 » October 11th, 2012, 6:40 am

Mercedia wrote:I love this pet listing - thank you for taking the time and effort to make it! Any chance you could make it sortable? Thanks,
Mercedia


Thanks, yes i can make it sorteable. I also work on a feature where ill collect all possible breedIds for a given species. Some can only have one and some can have several. I want to know for example, what breeds a wisp can have etc.
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Postby Mulot » October 11th, 2012, 8:26 am

WAW :shock:

Really good job !

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Postby Poofah » October 11th, 2012, 11:43 am

this is a wonderful resource, thank you!

A question: some of the rarities don't match the rarity they stated for the non-battle pets (going from this admittedly old list from beta). For example Spirit of Competition is not on Mumper's list, but shows up as rare on your app, which should be accurate as it's culled from Armory, which presumably reflects the game files. Did they update their list of which pre-MoP pets would be rare?

After reading the old thread I linked above, it seems that people have already noticed that Spirit of Competition has the stats of a rare pet, and as far as I can tell this is undocumented as of 10/03. I only noticed Spirit because he's a favorite of mine: it's possible there may be other examples too.

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Postby Quintessence » October 11th, 2012, 11:55 am

Poofah wrote:Did they update their list of which pre-MoP pets would be rare?


Yes, the old beta-list is out-dated and inaccurate. Mumper mentioned that updated quality tooltips for older pets would be available in 5.1. Until then, we'll have to rely on addons such as Pet Battle Quality Glow and PetBattle Info to determine quality types for the pre-MoP companions.
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Postby Darky28 » October 11th, 2012, 12:25 pm

I've implemented sorting

you can just click the headers for ascending / descending sorting...
Interresting to see that Pebble will be my highest HP pet at 25.... 1969 HP even more than my 1888 Magic crawdad
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Postby Darky28 » October 11th, 2012, 4:48 pm

Poofah wrote:this is a wonderful resource, thank you!

A question: some of the rarities don't match the rarity they stated for the non-battle pets (going from this admittedly old list from beta). For example Spirit of Competition is not on Mumper's list, but shows up as rare on your app, which should be accurate as it's culled from Armory, which presumably reflects the game files. Did they update their list of which pre-MoP pets would be rare?

After reading the old thread I linked above, it seems that people have already noticed that Spirit of Competition has the stats of a rare pet, and as far as I can tell this is undocumented as of 10/03. I only noticed Spirit because he's a favorite of mine: it's possible there may be other examples too.


@Poofah
I've noticed the epic hyacinth macaw is only a rare battle pet :-(
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Postby Poofah » October 11th, 2012, 5:47 pm

Yes, it's a little unfortunate that the rarity of the item that teaches you the pet often doesn't correlate with the rarity of the pet itself in the battle pet system. Crawling Claw is also a rare pet, not epic. Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling is an uncommon battle pet; Toxic Wasteling is uncommon; etc etc. It is not at all consistent.

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Postby Darky28 » October 12th, 2012, 12:29 am

Poofah wrote:Yes, it's a little unfortunate that the rarity of the item that teaches you the pet often doesn't correlate with the rarity of the pet itself in the battle pet system. Crawling Claw is also a rare pet, not epic. Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling is an uncommon battle pet; Toxic Wasteling is uncommon; etc etc. It is not at all consistent.


If you use the pet Api from blizzard you see that they have 2 rarity... 1 is the old and 1 the new on the same pet.
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Postby Darky28 » October 13th, 2012, 10:38 pm

Added support for Realm Language :-) and the settings are saved in cookies
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Postby Misstic » October 14th, 2012, 3:17 am

Very nice, thank you so much for all your hard work!
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Postby Rower » October 14th, 2012, 3:27 am

Nice! Thank you! :)

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Postby Meshadek » October 14th, 2012, 3:37 am

That's handy!!!

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Postby Meiska » October 15th, 2012, 12:51 am

FF user here and I can't seem to get it to load. I turned off my adblock and reloaded my browser, but it doesn't seem to be fetching for me. Either way, awesome tool.

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Postby Darky28 » October 16th, 2012, 12:43 pm

I've implemented the breedIds for the pets now :-) enjoy

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Postby Poofah » October 16th, 2012, 1:27 pm

Yikes. This is super useful, but also quite daunting. For example, Flayer Youngling has 10(!) breedids, all with distinct statistics. We can only have 3 at maximum: that makes the collector in me sad. It also means I might have to throw one of mine away so I can try for the 325 speed version: it was hard enough finding rares in the first place!

Also, it seems that pre-MoP pets can also have multiple breedIDs? For example, Nether Ray Fry and Tiny Sporebat have 4 and 3 unique stat configurations, respectively. Does it choose among these randomly when I learn it? If I go back to the vendor, can I buy more until I get the one I want? I just assumed the non-captured pets would be identical from one to the next. Thankfully this doesn't seem to apply to the one-per-account pets (CE and promotion pets), so we don't have to worry about getting a 'bad' Grunty or Frosty or etc.*

some other non-captured pets that seem to have multiple distinct breedIDs (not comprehensive): Ghostly Skull, Armadillo Pup, Cockatiel, Senegal, Ancona Chicken, Tickbird Hatchling, Blue Clockwork Rocket Bot, Rustberg Gull, Darkmoon Cub, Jade Owl.

*Actually, Brilliant Kaliri has 3 breedIDs but is an achievement reward and hence unique. Also, Jade Tentacle has 2 distinct breedIDs.

My Brilliant Kaliri is the one with 273 speed, and my Jade Tentacle also has 273 speed. Can anyone confirm that they have a different version of either of these?

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