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The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 21st, 2013, 1:05 am
by NathKnave
Is there any reason that all the non-battle pets have a Common quality while the Darkmoon Balloon is Poor? I really feel sorry for the little guy. (It's not at all that I would have one more point in my Pet Score if it were Common.)

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 21st, 2013, 2:14 am
by Maizing
What is really weird is that, if you look at the pets in game in your pet journal, the Darkmoon Balloon is rare, and all the other non-combat pets are uncommon.

I can't help but think that something is screwy here.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 21st, 2013, 3:10 am
by Feliciamarie
Omg thank you! I have been searching my list up and down for the "poor" pet in my list.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 21st, 2013, 4:24 am
by NathKnave
Feliciamarie wrote:Omg thank you! I have been searching my list up and down for the "poor" pet in my list.
This is what tipped me off as well. I was positive that I had upgraded or replaced all my poor pets, yet there was one showing in my collection here. I followed the "Filter Collected" link at the top of my collection and set the filter to "Collected (Poor)" and there was my sad Darkmoon Balloon.

I've only checked a few other collections, but it seems that everyone's balloon is poor. I'm not sure if it's the Armory or this site that sets the rarity for the non-battle pets, but if it's the Armory I'm not sure anything can be done.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 21st, 2013, 7:35 am
by Breanni
The Darkmoon Balloon is a bit of an oddball in that it has been bugged on Blizzard's end in the Armory since it was released more than a year ago. Our new system allows people to add any pet that is bugged, but it's done with "base stats". In this case, that means the Darkmoon Balloon is showing up as a poor quality pet.

What I'd like to do is have any of these pets show up as "common" at the minimum, rather than "poor". I've asked our Lead Developer if he could implement this fix (and he can), but it may be several days. We've got some other bugs to address that are higher priority.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 10:40 am
by Draconigena
For some reason the azure whelpling is shown as common quality on the armory, but it is rare in game, and also rare here on the website.
Not directly related to the balloon, but it is also an error on the armory.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 11:55 am
by Breanni
Draconigena wrote:For some reason the azure whelpling is shown as common quality on the armory, but it is rare in game, and also rare here on the website.
As long as it's importing properly, I wouldn't worry about it. It sounds like a styling bug on their site.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 2:13 pm
by Adashiel
Most of the non-combat pets can be upgraded to Rare with battle-stones. You still can't fight with them, of course, but their names are blue when you summon them. So far I've upgraded my squire and eventually I'll do the same with my balloons and kites. Would this be reflected in Collections at some point?

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 2:55 pm
by Spyro
Draconigena wrote:For some reason the azure whelpling is shown as common quality on the armory, but it is rare in game, and also rare here on the website.
Not directly related to the balloon, but it is also an error on the armory.
It seems that in the armory most pets learned from items are given the quality of the item they are learned from. For example Hyacinth Macaw is shown a epic though it has a rare battle quality. The Red cricket though shows as common even though the item is rare.
Adashiel wrote:Most of the non-combat pets can be upgraded to Rare with battle-stones. You still can't fight with them, of course, but their names are blue when you summon them. So far I've upgraded my squire and eventually I'll do the same with my balloons and kites. Would this be reflected in Collections at some point?
I wondered about that but didn't have the spare stones to try it.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 5:02 pm
by Breanni
Any pet can be upgraded. Once it has been upgraded, it will be shown as such on the Armory (display bugs aside). Then it will be upgraded here as well following an import.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 5:30 pm
by Vode
My Dragon Kite shows as common on warcraftpets, but it is rare. (I believe they all are, I don´t remember using a stone on it)
It´s also lvl 25.

On armory, it´s purple, same as the macaw, as commented above.
Seems the lvl is not registered on armory.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 6:00 pm
by Kazia
A few weeks ago I upgraded my Argent Gruntling to Rare with a spare humanoid stone I had, but on this site he's showing as Common.

Is this a bug?

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 9:21 pm
by Breanni
Well, it does sound like a bug -- but it's got to be an Armory bug. Our site mirrors whatever is shown on the Armory (which should match your in-game pets). Try contacting Blizzard tech support for assistance.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 23rd, 2013, 2:20 pm
by Syrrie
Vode wrote:My Dragon Kite shows as common on warcraftpets, but it is rare. (I believe they all are, I don´t remember using a stone on it)
It´s also lvl 25.

On armory, it´s purple, same as the macaw, as commented above.
Seems the lvl is not registered on armory.
Seconding this. Dragon Kite hasn't shown up properly on the Armory since it was made a battle pet in 5.1.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 26th, 2013, 5:47 am
by Vegi
Well, there is a problem with non battle pets - kites, baloons, guild heralds and ex non battle pet - Dragon Kite. On armory theyre all atleast uncommon, but on warcraftpets- common. Any ETA on fix? It feels awful when you finally caught all rares, worst pets are uncommon, and bam - so many commons here on the profile :(

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 26th, 2013, 6:56 am
by Breanni
This is because all those non-battle pets you see on the Armory aren't actually showing their pet quality. They're showing their ITEM quality. Regular battle pets show their pet quality.

Our pet score is based on pet quality, not item quality. So regardless of how these pets appear to you on the Armory, they are all considered "common" quality according to the numbers. You can even say that our site is more accurate than the Armory in this case.

Here's a question: Can any of these non-battle pets be upgraded via battle stone?

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 26th, 2013, 6:25 pm
by Adashiel
Most of the non-battle pets can be upgraded. I think the only exceptions are the guild pages and heralds. When you upgrade a non-battle pet nothing changes, really, since they still can't battle, but they show up as Rare in your pet journal and their names are blue when you summon them.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 26th, 2013, 9:17 pm
by Breanni
Ok -- we'll see if there's any way to pull the correct rarity on these pets from the Armory. It might already be pulling them. If anyone has upgraded one of these pets, please confirm whether our site matches your Armory for the upgraded non-battle pet. Thanks!

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 28th, 2013, 12:07 pm
by Nomadking
Breanni wrote:Ok -- we'll see if there's any way to pull the correct rarity on these pets from the Armory. It might already be pulling them. If anyone has upgraded one of these pets, please confirm whether our site matches your Armory for the upgraded non-battle pet. Thanks!
I've upgraded my Alliance Balloon to Rare in game, but the armory and the site both show it as Common.

Re: The Poor Darkmoon Balloon

Posted: January 29th, 2013, 6:03 pm
by Breanni
Nomadking wrote:I've upgraded my Alliance Balloon to Rare in game, but the armory and the site both show it as Common.
Can anyone else confirm this for any of the non-battle pets aside from the Darkmoon Balloon?