Genome wrote:Another facet of this issue is the "counter" argument in that I get to feeling the need to have a hard-counter for all of the Valk teams out there actually locks me in as well. Unless I haven't seen a Valk team in a while, my most common teams always run with at least one (and sometimes two) Valk counters; normally and Emperor Crab with Shell Shield. I enjoy using this pet, but I don't really like the notion of having to use it continually in order to stand a chance.
Genome wrote:Unskilled Valk players simply rely on casting Doom on round one, and Haunt on round two (even worse players simply use Haunt on the first turn), and behavior like this is easily juked.
Genome wrote:If Haunt ever received a CD (like it desperately needs), then players like this would have to abandon it in favor of something easier.
Yamum wrote:Now, bad players use the top 3 and everyone else is forced to play around it.
Yamum wrote:Currently, three pets define what happens in PvP pet battles (I loathe the term "meta-game").
Yamum wrote:In conclusion, WoW players are not going to change, it's up to Blizzard to BALANCE THE DANG PETS.
Yamum wrote:This also relates to an article I'm writing in my head entitled "how the internet ruined gaming".
Poofah wrote:I think everyone uses these pets, not just bad players. Why wouldn't you?
Poofah wrote:Maybe that's why you don't like the term? It wasn't clear.
Poofah wrote:It's easier to single out overpowered individual pets, certainly. But even then, this is subjective: somebody might put Murkalot in your list in place of Anubisath; or Fossilized Hatchling, or etc etc. Maybe some reclusive genius has won 1000 out of 1000 games with 3xPierre! We don't have access to win/loss records and there's no significantly-attended tournaments, so everything is anecdotal.
Poofah wrote:And this part 100% disagree. As with any game, people discover the optimal strategies over time. Access to information only serves to accelerate that process. If people rely on bad or outdated information, that's on them. If the internet leads people to flock to a single overpowered pet/team, that's a flaw in the pet battle system: it's not the internet's fault, the internet has only revealed a pre-existing problem. And in that case, it's on Blizzard to adjust the system (as in your previous point).
Yamum wrote:I've never heard a sportscaster talking about the soccer meta-game.
Yamum wrote:You don't need access to everyone's battle results to come to a reasonable conclusion. Also, if someone had won 1000 games with triple Pierre then he would have 1000 victims, people would be talking about this team and copies would start to appear.
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