Kovok Pheromones Question

Discuss pet battles, strategy and theorycrafting.
Post Reply
User avatar
Yooda
Posts:14
Joined:November 8th, 2013
Pet Score:1703
Realm:Bleeding Hollow-us
Contact:
Kovok Pheromones Question

Post by Yooda » November 9th, 2013, 3:06 pm

[ability]Pheromones[/ability]

My question pertains to the fact that Kovok is from the "Beast" family of pets. The Beast family of pets deal 25% extra damage when below half health.

I understand that if the ability is applied before this triggers the damage will still update; however, I am unsure about this next part which is my question.

Assuming Pheromones is out and Kovok dies; will Pheromones do 25% more damage since Kovok is under half health...

Or

will Pheromones do normal damage since Kovok is dead.

-Yooda

User avatar
Kpb321
Posts:938
Joined:April 30th, 2013
Pet Score:3974
BattleTag®:kpb#1554
Realm:Sisters of Elune-us
Contact:

Re: Kovok Pheromones Question

Post by Kpb321 » November 9th, 2013, 3:52 pm

I'd think that it would still get the boost as a dead beast still has the racial beast buff.

User avatar
Yooda
Posts:14
Joined:November 8th, 2013
Pet Score:1703
Realm:Bleeding Hollow-us
Contact:

Re: Kovok Pheromones Question

Post by Yooda » November 9th, 2013, 3:56 pm

Kpb321 wrote:I'd think that it would still get the boost as a dead beast still has the racial beast buff.
Not looking for opinions here. This happens on my last post... People would just post their opinion on the question... Not trying to be a "meanie" but if you don't know... Thanks for taking a look at my question.

User avatar
Poofah
Posts:820
Joined:October 5th, 2012
Pet Score:4206
Realm:Llane-us
Contact:

Re: Kovok Pheromones Question

Post by Poofah » November 9th, 2013, 4:48 pm

When he dies, the corpse retains the buff, and any damage attributed to him is boosted by it. The same thing happens with many other buffs, for example the dragonkin passive or the various +25% damage buffs such as Roll/Roar--and they also don't properly expire in this case, ie the corpse's damage will benefit from the dragonkin buff for the remainder of the battle.

User avatar
Yooda
Posts:14
Joined:November 8th, 2013
Pet Score:1703
Realm:Bleeding Hollow-us
Contact:

Re: Kovok Pheromones Question

Post by Yooda » November 9th, 2013, 5:15 pm

Poofah wrote:When he dies, the corpse retains the buff, and any damage attributed to him is boosted by it. The same thing happens with many other buffs, for example the dragonkin passive or the various +25% damage buffs such as Roll/Roar--and they also don't properly expire in this case, ie the corpse's damage will benefit from the dragonkin buff for the remainder of the battle.
Thank you.

User avatar
Shikon01
MVP
Posts:303
Joined:September 1st, 2013
Pet Score:2668
Realm:Silvermoon-us
Contact:

Re: Kovok Pheromones Question

Post by Shikon01 » November 10th, 2013, 10:17 am

My response is die baby die. I'm having hell fight this pet and everyone seems to have one,but me. Personally, I'm just focus on killing this baby myself :))

Iamwhatis
Posts:83
Joined:April 21st, 2013
Pet Score:4076
Realm:Stormscale-us
Contact:

Re: Kovok Pheromones Question

Post by Iamwhatis » November 15th, 2013, 12:18 pm

Poofah wrote:
When he dies, the corpse retains the buff, and any damage attributed to him is boosted by it. The same thing happens with many other buffs, for example the dragonkin passive or the various +25% damage buffs such as Roll/Roar--and they also don't properly expire in this case, ie the corpse's damage will benefit from the dragonkin buff for the remainder of the battle.

My question:

If Kovok is full health when Pheromones is cast and later Kovok goes below 50% health is the beast buff applied sort of retroactively but to future damage of course?

User avatar
Poofah
Posts:820
Joined:October 5th, 2012
Pet Score:4206
Realm:Llane-us
Contact:

Re: Kovok Pheromones Question

Post by Poofah » November 15th, 2013, 3:45 pm

Yes, persistent damaging effects update their damage to reflect new buffs/debuffs. So if e.g. Kovok casts Pheromones at full health (it ticks for 140), then later he drops below 50% health, the Pheromones will update and tick for 175.

User avatar
Gilneas
Top Rater
Posts:613
Joined:May 11th, 2008
Pet Score:10095
Realm:Kargath-us
Contact:

Re: Kovok Pheromones Question

Post by Gilneas » November 15th, 2013, 6:12 pm

Shikon01 wrote:everyone seems to have one,but me.
Good news is, its not just you. Its somewhat hard to come by still. From what I've seen in the PvP queue and been able to gather its pretty rare.

Post Reply