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Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

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Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Luciandk » September 13th, 2013, 5:43 pm

I tried out xu-fu-cub-of-xuen and he soloed the whole of her team on first try. That pet is an obscene powerhouse.

Once you learn to time Feed to land just as an enemy hit knocks you below 50% after having used Prowl, you can do major damage and healing on next hit. Which is essential to keep Xu-Fu alive.

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Quintessence » September 13th, 2013, 6:10 pm

I'll have to try using Xu-Fu out tonight. Sounds like fun! XD

Side topic: Do you think Xu-Fu is too strong? To the point where it needs a nerf? I guess the biggest factor would be how it fairs in PVP..?

I picked Xu-Fu first and foremost because of how well it did against me in the Celestial Tournament. But I do worry that it's too strong and will receive a reduction or change to its abilities.
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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Luciandk » September 13th, 2013, 6:20 pm

The thing about Xu-Fu is that his moves is telegraphed a mile away and just asking for a dodge or a force swap to make him waste his feed. Plenty of ways to counter it, unlike pre-nerf Direhorn, which just self-synergized too well

Xu-Fu is powerful, but only if you can time his moves right, a canny player can easilly disrupt the sequence. NPC tamers are predictable and Xu-Fu excels against them. Infact Xu-Fu does extremely well against Singing Sunflower, because of Sunlight empowering his feed and bringing him close to 50% life to dip under it easilly to gain a huge lifebuffer thanks to the empowered feed.


I see Xu-Fu as alike the Kun-Lai Runt, which can be irritating if you dont know how to deal with it. Such as swapping out when you get the debuff to blunt his burst. A strong pet, but with plenty of counters.

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Zythehealer » September 13th, 2013, 7:59 pm

Huh, my Water Strider is still tearing apart Nishi's team the same as always as long as RNG doesn't get me.

On another note, Chi-Chi completely solos the Pandaren Water Spirit :D

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Luciandk » September 14th, 2013, 9:43 am

Ï should note you have to start with Xu-fu to deal enough damage to destroy the singing sunflower, just swap in your carry pet on toothbreaker when he goes under.

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Nirnaeth101 » September 16th, 2013, 3:39 am

PP Emperor Crab can still solo this fairly easily so you can lvl 2 carry pets.

PP Infinite Whelping can solo Shu and Whispering (but pretty RNG)

Anubisath Idol can solo Burning and Aki

PP Proto Whelp can solo Yon

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Madsen » September 16th, 2013, 1:50 pm

There is no point in leveling 2 carry pets at once. The xp is split. The only time it would be useful is if your pets are level 24 and you dont want to waste xp, but then your pets are 24 and it doesn't matter much what team you play.

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Sanzul » September 16th, 2013, 4:42 pm

My Pandaren water spirit still wrecks that whole team. I had to change my setup from 122 to 111, but the same pet still does the job. The change to the elemental racial allowing your Healing Wave to benefit from the flower's sunlight made an outlasting approach more viable, and Dive obviously counters the big hits well.

Zythehealer wrote:On another note, Chi-Chi completely solos the Pandaren Water Spirit :D

To be fair, my Imperial Eagle Chick can usually do that too. The fish will do zero damage to a pet with Liftoff, which also allows you to dodge the elemental's burst combo.

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Katzbalger » September 17th, 2013, 9:41 am

Yeah water spirit actually got easier with the change, now I just leave my wildhammer gryphon hatchling in the whole fight, apart from switching the carry in for 1st round of ele. Thundering no real change either, I just switched from sunreaver vs his ooze to scourged whelpling with tail sweep now it's magic.

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Whiplash » September 17th, 2013, 12:22 pm

I have been using carry pet, Fishy, and Clockwork Gnome.
Carry pet gets a hit and swaps.
Fishy uses Whirlpool, Cleasing Rain, and Water Jet to destroy the elementals.
Clockwork Gnome destroys the beast.

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Luciandk » September 22nd, 2013, 4:29 am

Honestly, sure Nishi is a tiny bit more challenging now. But it was a bugfix surely. Pre 5.4 I never saw the sunflower use the solar beam attack at all, rendering it a joke. Still several easy tamers to level up a lowbie on for that crucial first xp. Ive taken to focus primarilly on Courageous Yon and Aki the Chosen as their first pets cant 1shot a lowbie lvl 1.

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Mehetabel » September 22nd, 2013, 6:48 am

Luciandk wrote:Ive taken to focus primarilly on Courageous Yon and Aki the Chosen as their first pets cant 1shot a lowbie lvl 1.

I totally agree with this. If I only have time for one or two "easy" battles a day I'll now pick Aki and Yon for a quick boost, rather than Nishi. However, although it took a little while to readjust for Nishi, I discovered that Purple Puffer - Boost - Darkmoon Zepplin works consistantly well.
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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Saasan » September 23rd, 2013, 11:24 am

Morríghan wrote:I HATE Nishi with a passion now. I don't have a very big selection of lvl 25 big hitters that would chew her up (my blowfish gets decimated!),
*hate, hate, hate, hate...."


I'm curious how you're using the blowfish (which moveset) as my puffer consistently solos Nishi, even post-patch.

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Anasa » September 23rd, 2013, 1:37 pm

I'm still using an Eternal Strider vs. Nishi, and it still takes out both elementals easily. Any decent mech mops up the beast.

Yeah, she's a little harder, but it was pretty obvious her AI was bugged before.

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Re: Farmer Nishi buffed? I laugh

Postby Undeadgoat » September 23rd, 2013, 8:34 pm

I use a frog vs. Nishi a lot, and those can be tamed in Pandaria so you'll only have 2-4 levels to get them up to 25. Snails are also good vs. elementals, I imagine that if you have some blue 23 turtles, frogs, striders or snails sitting around they would easily deal with Nishi . . . and if you don't have any strong DPS mechanicals to finish off her grub, moths are VERY effective against beasts and can be tamed all over Pandaria.

Actually, getting a bit off-topic here but I've found that moths are VERY strong and well worth leveling if you don't have one, my Amber Moth or Gilded Moth can solo almost any Pandaria wild battle!


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