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Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Seyla » June 16th, 2016, 2:02 am

Are there any viable strategies other than Howlbomb that work on the tanaan pets? I've tried everything I can think of and come up with nothing.
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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Gráinne » June 16th, 2016, 2:20 am

I haven't done them for a long time, but when I did I used a P/B breed Zandalari Anklerender for them all, with a couple of tanky all-rounders like Anubisath Idol, a P/P breed Emerald Proto-Whelp, P/P Emperor Crab and Pterrordax Hatchling (good against the Crabs) as backup, or a Chrominius for Howl, Bite, Bite and/or Surge.

A P/P Zandalari Anklerender will also work, but tends to die just a bit too soon on some of them.

The trick with an Anklerender is to use Primal Cry first if the slowing debuff will make you faster than the opposing lead pet. That effectively gets you a free round. Otherwise, Black Claw + Hunting Party by themselves will likely do the job.

Mirecroak is pure RNG. If you get Frogged, forfeit and start again. Most of the rest were fine, though.

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Paladance » June 16th, 2016, 6:20 am

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I've been planning to create a lil' guide about general dealing with pets without Howl, but I still hope that nerf would be reconsidered and cancelled.

If I recall correctly, there are five opponents slower than Molten Corgi and S/S Fiendish Imp. You can force opponent to swap until it remains alone (beware of finishing adds before cooldown wears off).

After that, Unborn Val'kyr with Curse and Haunt + Infected Squirrel with Stampede (picking up the undead was originally intended against Thundertail's Devour, but in general it's about the damned round prevalence). However, I'm not sure how it works with the incoming resurrection sickness.

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Digem » June 16th, 2016, 10:18 am

Gráinne wrote:I haven't done them for a long time, but when I did I used a P/B breed Zandalari Anklerender for them all, with a couple of tanky all-rounders like Anubisath Idol, a P/P breed Emerald Proto-Whelp, P/P Emperor Crab and Pterrordax Hatchling (good against the Crabs) as backup, or a Chrominius for Howl, Bite, Bite and/or Surge.

A P/P Zandalari Anklerender will also work, but tends to die just a bit too soon on some of them.

The trick with an Anklerender is to use Primal Cry first if the slowing debuff will make you faster than the opposing lead pet. That effectively gets you a free round. Otherwise, Black Claw + Hunting Party by themselves will likely do the job.

Mirecroak is pure RNG. If you get Frogged, forfeit and start again. Most of the rest were fine, though.



One needs the s/s breed of the anklerender as to not to get stun locked on one like the eye ball guy in tanaan

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Gráinne » June 16th, 2016, 12:33 pm

Digem wrote:One needs the s/s breed of the anklerender as to not to get stun locked on one like the eye ball guy in tanaan


I do remember having problems with this guy, so I went back to check.

A screenshot of my P/B Anklerender finishing him just now:

http://i.imgur.com/LvZzxRv.png

Of course, RNG applies to this and all other battles, and I recall I may also have used Ikky on this guy, but I'm pretty sure the P/B is viable.

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Quintessence » June 16th, 2016, 5:37 pm

I don't have a single go-to team (I find using the same team repeatedly on all of the fights kind of boring), but I've had success with this list: http://wowpetaddiction.blogspot.com/2015/06/my-teams-for-tanaan-boss-pets.html

Sorry for lack of detailed information on actual moves each round. I haven't done the Tanaan fights in a while; I'd have to go back and do the fights again to remember the specific strat.

There are probably much better strats floating out there (that don't involve Howl-Bomb).

And P/P Emerald Proto-Whelp is my MVP for all the Tanaan encounters *hugs whelp*
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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Digem » June 20th, 2016, 12:03 pm

Gráinne wrote:
Digem wrote:One needs the s/s breed of the anklerender as to not to get stun locked on one like the eye ball guy in tanaan


I do remember having problems with this guy, so I went back to check.

A screenshot of my P/B Anklerender finishing him just now:

http://i.imgur.com/LvZzxRv.png

Of course, RNG applies to this and all other battles, and I recall I may also have used Ikky on this guy, but I'm pretty sure the P/B is viable.

It is viable but s/s takes a lot of the rng out of the picture. Rng is a bitch at times in pet battles so I try to limit its evilness as much as possible.

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Paladance » June 21st, 2016, 10:50 am

Digem wrote:
Gráinne wrote:
Digem wrote:One needs the s/s breed of the anklerender as to not to get stun locked on one like the eye ball guy in tanaan


I do remember having problems with this guy, so I went back to check.

A screenshot of my P/B Anklerender finishing him just now:

http://i.imgur.com/LvZzxRv.png

Of course, RNG applies to this and all other battles, and I recall I may also have used Ikky on this guy, but I'm pretty sure the P/B is viable.

It is viable but s/s takes a lot of the rng out of the picture. Rng is a bitch at times in pet battles so I try to limit its evilness as much as possible.


The thing is that Primal Cry reduces the enemy team's speed, so Gazer is no longer first and can't perform a stun (each Tanaan foe uses the fel boost first). No need to overthink. ^^
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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Nikkip » June 21st, 2016, 12:35 pm

I use howl bomb for them, I also use Hazelnuttygames on youtube for guidence. I have put my own spin on some that I feel works better (general pet battles) but she is really good

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Avalee » July 1st, 2016, 9:34 am

Using Call Lightning (for example from Wild golden hatchling), before the enklerender does its Black Claw + Hunting Party will greatly increase the damage he does.
Helped me a lot in the Tanaan battles.

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Cluey » August 22nd, 2016, 12:59 pm

Gráinne wrote:Mirecroak is pure RNG. If you get Frogged, forfeit and start again. Most of the rest were fine, though.

Not pure RNG, use a pet which is immune to the frogging!
Try the Black Lamb.

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Gráinne » August 22nd, 2016, 2:41 pm

Darkmoon Hatchling is probably better than Black Lamb if you're going that direction on Mirecroak, but I just looked up my Rematch, and I have Ikky as my current Mirecroak team point-bird.

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Uduwudu » August 23rd, 2016, 9:48 am

Hi,

In general, I have had no issues with the Tanaan Jungle buggers, with one exception. In the cave, that booger had a P/P Bloodbeak (and BLUE) as the second pet, and that made the fight very difficult. the Anklerender had no issues with the boss, but the Bloodbeak was taking advantage of the fact that all the other two pets had nearly one third less health, and could not take him down. I finally got through, and I still am not sure why, but I think I had to make sure that I got the "block" properly out of the way with the Anklerender, or that fight goes south quickly.

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Cluey » August 23rd, 2016, 12:00 pm

Nya wrote:The Bush Chicken is a perfect choise for safe Mirecroak strats.

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=85846/bush-chicken

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For example:

Ikky starts with Black Claw > switch to Bush Chicken > Flock

safe and fast :D

Why switch to cast [Flock] when Ikky has it already?

I've been using the Black Lamb on Mirecroak and Dark Gazer because it's immune to the interrupt/frogging. It was just a replacement option for [Howl].
[Gyser] > [Whirlpool] > swap > [Howl]
Becomes:
[Gyser] > swap > [Chew] > [Stampede]

It isn't as strong as the old [Howl], as you don't get the option to follow up with a big hit, but it works well enough that I didn't keep looking.

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Biscuit » August 23rd, 2016, 12:23 pm

Cluey wrote:
Nya wrote:Why switch to cast [Flock] when Ikky has it already?


In spite of its name, you do realize Bush Chicken is a critter, right?

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Prettyheals » August 23rd, 2016, 4:38 pm

In spite of its name, you do realize Bush Chicken is a critter, right?


I think that is the point...Critters are immune to stun, root and sleep effects

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Re: Non-Howlbomb strategies for Tanaan pets?

Postby Cluey » August 24th, 2016, 2:46 am

Biscuit wrote:
Cluey wrote:
Nya wrote:Why switch to cast [Flock] when Ikky has it already?


In spite of its name, you do realize Bush Chicken is a critter, right?

ahh!
I hadn't looked at that. :-D

Silly name!

So the same idea but a different way of winning, which is good. It would suck if there was only one way to win, that would be even worse if the required pet was really rare, expensive, or even worse, no longer available.


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