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Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

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Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Aur » October 18th, 2015, 5:36 pm

For the new Hallow's End pets Ghastly Rat, Ghost Maggot and Spectral Spinner, what are your thoughts on the best breeds for these? I was happy to get a S/S spider, and thinking I want a power version of the Maggot, but not sure on the Rat. I have a P/B in the rat and maggot now.

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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Paladance » October 19th, 2015, 2:09 am

I've rarified S/S spider (yay!) and P/B maggot aswell, but like you, I'm not sure about the rat.
To be honest, with an average stat profile there is no practical usage for any breed.
Otherwise I'd say H/S and this is the one that I have caught. But I keep it uncommon ATM.
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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Gráinne » October 19th, 2015, 8:10 am

Yes, I agree I want that Spectral Spinner with its Blinding Poison to have 325 speed, so S/S. No point blinding the opponent after he's killed you!

I don't see anything compelling about the breed choices for the other two.

I went for P/B Ghost Maggot as well.

I also got H/S Ghastly Rat but I'm still half-thinking P/B would be better. Of course, since I'll likely never play either this or the maggot, I'm not sure it matters that much.

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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Digem » October 19th, 2015, 10:41 am

Gráinne wrote:Yes, I agree I want that Spectral Spinner with its Blinding Poison to have 325 speed, so S/S. No point blinding the opponent after he's killed you!

I don't see anything compelling about the breed choices for the other two.

I went for P/B Ghost Maggot as well.

I also got H/S Ghastly Rat but I'm still half-thinking P/B would be better. Of course, since I'll likely never play either this or the maggot, I'm not sure it matters that much.



I agree on the breed choices on the spinner and maggot.
And think a p/b would be best for the rat since it will be an undead killer with its critter moves.
So you want it to hit as hard as possible and be slow to take advantage of the undead racial.
With crouch too it will have some surviabilty.
A h/p one would be amazing

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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Gracin » October 19th, 2015, 1:41 pm

I grabbed both a S/S and P/S Maggot last night, I'll probably try and nab a P/B today.

I just took a H/S Rat, seeing as I really wasn't sure what route I wanted to take for it, but the idea of taking a P/B to take advantage of the UD racial is a good thought.

For the spinner, I took both a P/S and S/S. I like the S/S speed with blinding, but at 289 speed the P/S might make quite a heavy hitter.

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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Klax » October 19th, 2015, 4:59 pm

I agree that for the Spectral Spinner that S/S is the way to go.

For the Ghost Maggot I have a P/B and an S/S - both came up rare on the first 2 battles with this pet so I captured them both and just leveled them to 25 (I usually try to get the pure stats version, P/P, S/S or H/H when available, anyway).

Was not sure how / when I was going to use the Ghastly Rat so I tamed / rarefied / leveled an H/B, H/S and P/B, but I think the P/B has the best potential.

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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Gráinne » October 19th, 2015, 6:43 pm

Yup, it looks to me as if, using

Keeping up Swarm of Flies
Consume otherwise
and Ghastly Bite on undead round

the P/B Ghastly Rat will do about 340 more damage than the H/S over (and after) its life, assuming it's taking 300 damage per round. It's the extra power going into healing from Consume that allows it to live as long as the H/S, but put out that bit more damage.

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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Maizing » October 20th, 2015, 2:20 am

I went P/B for the Ghastly Rat and S/S (but picked up a P/S as well for testing) for the Spectral Spinner myself.

I caught an S/S and a P/S on the Ghost Maggot and will see how they play. I may look into picking up a P/B as well and decide later which to keep.

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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Vakeetah » October 20th, 2015, 11:30 am

The Spectral Spinner is a S/S for sure (best results for Blinding Poison). P/S and P/B might be good for a pure leech combo, although against medium speed pets, the P/S may still be able to pull a Blind and follow-up with Spectral Strike.

I've captured two Ghost Maggot, a P/B for general use, and a S/S for full advantage of Stench and Survival. Doesn't seem to have much potential in either case.

As for Ghastly Rat, I'll agree with the general consensus that its skillset favors a speedy breed, but S/S is not available. So I've captured a S/B and a P/B. Considering it favors Critter damage, which is most effective vs. other Undead, you don't need to be extremely fast. Only a handful of undeads outspeed the S/B (Mr. Bigglesworth, Widget the Departed, and the S/S versions of Bone Serpent and the other two Hallow's End pets), and the P/B has just enough speed to beat most other Undeads, so the lack of Speed doesn't seem so terrible on second thought.

Nevertheless, not sure which of the two breeds, P/B or S/B, I'll end up upgrading and using yet.
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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Biscuit » October 24th, 2015, 2:07 am

S/S Ghost Maggot is the way to go.
Being able to throw survival up first is the key.

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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Jerebear » October 24th, 2015, 8:10 am

Biscuit wrote:S/S Ghost Maggot is the way to go.
Being able to throw survival up first is the key.


Question on this as I haven't tried it: Would the speed matter since you don't need to use it until the undead round anyways (where you only would 'die' at the end of the turn normally)? I know the speed could be useful for preventing the undead round, but just asking for the other case.
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Re: Best Breed? - Hallow's End edition

Postby Paladance » October 24th, 2015, 12:49 pm

Being faster = 2 rounds of Survival, 1 round of Damned.
Being slower = 1 round of Survival, 2 rounds of Damned.

So speed matters only if you have a plan to use Survival at least twice.
Would be virtually possible if boosting Plagued Blood with something.
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