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Stella3
 
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More Experience is Given?

Postby Stella3 » February 15th, 2015, 12:18 am

Hi Collectors,

Everyday I would start my WoD trainer dailies with a level 1 pet, with absolute zero XP I would start at Ashlei, and follow a backwards slanted "S" all the way to finish off at the Ogre guy. I would then finish at about 300xp short of level 25, and then I would do a random wild pet battle and that was that, one more level 25.

Out of curiosity I decided to go backwards and start at the Ogre guy and finish with Ashlei. Turns out I finished at level 25, I dont need to do the extra pet battle, and this has been repeated dozens of times with no pets starting any higher than level 1, nor with any XP at all.

It seems I was given more experience for fighting the same trainers but in a different order!

Why does this happen? And to take it further, which WoD trainers give the most XP to which level of pet?
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Noxiish
 
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Re: More Experience is Given?

Postby Noxiish » February 15th, 2015, 12:24 am

I've seen via other forum posts that Tarr the Terrible gives less exp than the others, I think he's ranked to MoP exp or something similar in pay out levels, not entirely sure. I believe all the others gives the same WoD amount, but don't quote me. But even with that, it'd make sense that the backwards rotation without focusing on him first might boost a pet to 25.

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Re: More Experience is Given?

Postby Furkel » February 15th, 2015, 5:44 am

My guess is your pets are still low enough to get the added difficulty bonus on Ashlei when you do it this way? I like to start my lvl 1's at Ashlei as well since she's VERY easy to defeat with one lvl 25 and absolutely no risk of killing your carry pets, though :)

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Re: More Experience is Given?

Postby Jerebear » February 15th, 2015, 1:36 pm

I haven't mathed it out for your specific case, but if you look at my carry pet experience reference here at warcraftpets.com ( viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8829 ), you'll see that the pet experience curve is shaped like a hill, with the peak of the hill in between level 10 and 11. This means that pets level 10 and 11 get the most EXP per tamer kill and pets higher/lower than those two levels get less.

As stated before Tarr gives less EXP than other tamers. He gives Cata/Wrath tamer levels of EXP while other WoD tamers give MoP tamer levels of exp (or in the case of Ashlei, even more).

Doing them in different orders will give you different level breakpoints when learning experience. So it is completely possible to see the situation you describe. Starting out on Tarr will get a level 1 pet to halfway between level 9 and 10, while starting on Ashlei will get a level 1 pet just above level 12, so you get two different starting points by starting with the two different tamers. (EDIT: those levels assume just a safari hat with no food buffs).


EDIT: Mathed it out assuming just safari hat for both paths (Tarr, others, Ashlei and Ashlei, others, Tarr)
Starting with Tarr
LvL => Total EXP
1 => 2393
9 => 7591
14 => 12651
18 => 17106
21 => 20819
23 => 24515
25

Starting with Ashlei
LvL => Total EXP
1 => 4785
12 => 9983
16 => 14796
20 => 18784
22 => 22194
24 => 23828
24

23885 EXP is needed to go from level 1 to 25. Sorry for the crappy formating. WCP doesn't have a lot of good tags enabled for preformatted text.
Carry Pet Experience Reference Guide:
http://www.warcraftpets.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8829

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Re: More Experience is Given?

Postby Stella3 » February 15th, 2015, 4:13 pm

Very informative, thank you!!
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