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What now?

Postby Fauxfur » September 1st, 2014, 1:53 am

I've finished the pandaria tamers so I have the pandaren spirits and the beasts of fable to do but once thats over how much prep should I do for the celestial tournament? How many level 25s do I need and are there any pets I really need to have leveled and rare to complete it?

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Re: What now?

Postby Wakamaru » September 1st, 2014, 2:21 am

There are some excellent guides posted here on WCPets as well as WoWhead.com. This is a wonderful guide beating the tournament here:

A Pet Battler's Guide to: Defeating the Celestial Tournament

I've since modified teams a little here and there, but I worked off of the pets and strats listed in this guide before ever attempting the tournament. I was able to beat it the first time very easily, and have had no troubles since then (unless RNG kicked my butt).

I use/d the following strats listed in that guide:

Lorewalker Cho - Cho, Interupted
Dr. Iron Goldbloom - Original Strategy
Sully "The Pickle" McLeary - Original Strategy
Wrathion - Original Strategy
Chen Stormstout - Happy Hour
Taran Zhu - This Little Piggy (& Bunny Love)
Blingtron 4000 - Original Strategy
Wise Mari - Original Strategy
Shademaster Kiryn - Original Strategy
Chi-Chi, Hatchling of Chi-ji - Snailception
Xu-Fu, Cub of Xuen - W.T.Flock
Yu'la, Broodling of Yu'lon - Bigglebomb
Zao, Calfling of Niuzao - Original Strategy

You could certainly go in there with whatever you have on hand and gift it a whirl, but preparing ahead of time makes a world of difference. I've seen quite a few people post on these forums about how hard the tournament is or how it's impossible to beat - but with the right prep and teams it's easy to get through.

I hope this helps :)
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Re: What now?

Postby Fauxfur » September 1st, 2014, 3:55 am

Thank you! Yeah I read up on it and I don't think I could go in it as is, gonna take a look over these guides and prep.

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Re: What now?

Postby Kendrah » September 1st, 2014, 6:51 am

Fauxfur wrote:Thank you! Yeah I read up on it and I don't think I could go in it as is, gonna take a look over these guides and prep.


You get three rotating trainers each week to beat and the four celestial pets after that. The four celestial pets never rotated and they only have one pet in each. The trainers have three each, like normal trainers. So you won't see the same trainers you had today for a couple weeks. It all resets on Tuesdays, per usual.

You can't rev or heal your pets between matches either, so having enough pets for 7 teams of 3 is ideal. So 21 pets, basically, at the minimal. When the tourney came out, I'd see which trainers were this weeks trainers and level up whatever pets I thought I'd need for that specific week only. It made it less daunting that way. And once you get the celestial beast teams finished then you just need the nine for each trainer.

Other advice? Hm. Well, start with what you deem to be the hardest of the trainers and the same for the beasts. That way you won't have to do so many over again (yeah, you have to leave the scenario and restart it again if you need to revive and heal your pets.)

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Re: What now?

Postby Jerebear » September 1st, 2014, 9:57 am

My advice would be to build teams for the celestials first since they are the same every week.

Then if you don't plan on hitting it before the reset, go into the tournament and see what tamers are there and then leave. That means one of the other two sets will be there next week. Otherwise if you do plan on hitting the current tamers, take note of those instead.

Either way, start working on leveling pets for the tamers you hope to beat, but definitely work on the celestials first
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Re: What now?

Postby Skavenged » September 2nd, 2014, 8:30 am

The celestials are actually the easy part. Two of them go down easily to the traditional Howl/Bomb stray. For Xu-Fu, you can usually solo him with Lil Bling. Just have another mechanical with a nuke on standby, just in case RNG is tough on you. Yula can usually be solo'd by Clock'em, and I carry a Gregarious Grell, just in case he's needed for mop up

*edit: while Clock'em CAN usually solo Yula, I actually use a Stitched Pup first. Howl significantly speeds up the process

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Re: What now?

Postby Skavenged » September 2nd, 2014, 9:22 am

It should also be mentioned that even though you can't heal within the Celestial Tournament, you CAN heal inside the fights. Both Yula and Xao open with a first round buff. You can use the round to cast a backline heal, quit the fight, and then repeat. I personally use a Brew Pup, due to his hefty heal, but for those that don't have him, crickets and hoppers will work too.

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Re: What now?

Postby Klaital » September 4th, 2014, 12:47 am

Here is what I use for the celestial pets if that helps, its fairly generic with plenty of different pets to fit the bill for most.

Yu'la: Clock'em with Jab and Dodge can generally solo her, and its an easy pet to get (just need rank 4 in brawlers guild). Dodge the lift-offs, rest of the time spam jab.

Chi-Chi: Any snails can pretty easily kill him, just keep shell shield up, refreshing it on the turns he does his dodge thing, rest of the time spam ooze touch. High power snails are best. Note you need at least two snails, three is safest.

Zao: Any two pets with explode and any one pet with ion cannon beats him every time. doesn't really even matter what pets they are. What I normally use is netherspace abyssal, mininfernal, and menagerie custodian, but really any pets that have those abilities work. I start with abyssal, meteor strike, immolate, explode, then bring in mininfernal, explode immediately, then bring in custodian and ion cannon immediately and Zao is dead.

Xu-Fu: This is the only one where I have specific set-up, but it works very consistently. It includes lesser voidcaller (any breed, the higher power the better though), Lil' Bad Wolf (s/s breed), and Nether Faerie Dragon (s/s breed, sprite darter hatchling works also and is always s/s breed). The fight goes every time like this.
Start with Voidcaller
Round 1: Curse of Doom
Round 2: Illusionary Barrier
Round 3: Switch to Wolf
Round 4: Pass while Xu-fu breaks the barrier
Round 5: Howl
Round 6: Dodge
Round 7: Claw
Round 8: Claw
(wolf dies, bring in faerie dragon)
Round 9: Arcane Blast
Round 10: Evanescence
Round 11: Arcane Blast
Round 12: Arcane Blast
(Xu-Fu dies)

The standard val'kyr, water spirit, anything with howl setup works just fine on Xu-fu also (curse of doom, unholy ascension, geyser, whirlpool, howl), but I have always felt that tactic was almost like cheating which is why I always look for alternate ways to handle fights. :)

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Re: What now?

Postby Jerebear » September 4th, 2014, 8:57 am

Klaital wrote:Xu-Fu: This is the only one where I have specific set-up, but it works very consistently. It includes lesser voidcaller (any breed, the higher power the better though), Lil' Bad Wolf (s/s breed), and Nether Faerie Dragon (s/s breed, sprite darter hatchling works also and is always s/s breed). The fight goes every time like this.
Start with Voidcaller
Round 1: Curse of Doom
Round 2: Illusionary Barrier
Round 3: Switch to Wolf
Round 4: Pass while Xu-fu breaks the barrier
Round 5: Howl
Round 6: Dodge
Round 7: Claw
Round 8: Claw
(wolf dies, bring in faerie dragon)
Round 9: Arcane Blast
Round 10: Evanescence
Round 11: Arcane Blast
Round 12: Arcane Blast
(Xu-Fu dies)


As an alternate Xu-Fu strat, Spider Bomb:
Fox (doesn't matter too much...but keep an extra incase XuFu crits) + Spider (highest power spider)

R1: Dazzling Dance
R2: Flurry (or if Xu-Fu crit on R1, then just Howl cause you are gonna die this turn)
R3: Howl (fox will die on this turn)
R4: Brittle Webbing
R5: Spider Swarm (Xu-Fu dies)

It's normally a 5 round kill, but if Xu-fu crits on R1, it becomes a 4 round kill since you die a round earlier with the fox. I keep a second fox on reserve on the offchance he crits in R2 (just restart the fight with a new fox), but have only had to do that once so far in the last 25ish weeks.

If your spider isn't strong enough to kill him on R5, then keep a second spider and on R6 use another spider swarm to finish him off. Dazzling dance should keep them faster than Xu-Fu
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Re: What now?

Postby Ranok » September 4th, 2014, 1:18 pm

Another of the great guides on Wowhead is Celestial Tournament with 18 pets

http://www.wowhead.com/guide=2212

In addition to giving you a specific roster of pets, also explains how you can do some healing within the Tournament.

Both with this and the excellent guide mentioned earlier, you need certain pets that aren't easy to get hold of. Or are quite pricey in AH. Both also requires specific pet specs for some of the strategies, like the Alpine Foxling must be S/S.

I've padded my stable with extra pets, and in some cases duplicated the more critical ones like Chrominius and Unborn Val'kyr. Really annoys me when the RNG gods are frowning on me a half hour into the tournament and there's no choice but to abandon quest and start over.


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