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Over the top Dodging/misses?

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Equeon
 
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Re: Over the top Dodging/misses?

Postby Equeon » December 8th, 2012, 2:30 pm

I thought this was just low level pets, as I was levelling a new team... wonderful.
There was a time where I fought with my Clockwork Gnome against a Tiny Harvester and Chicken... both enemies missed ALL of their attacks. ALL.

I'm not complaining about that fight, but there have been times where I was the one missing constantly. Something is up.

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Palatje
 
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Re: Over the top Dodging/misses?

Postby Palatje » December 8th, 2012, 4:18 pm

My Minfernal his Meteor strike seems to miss more than hit. and it doesn't say anything about having a low hit chance in the tooltip. My minfernal is Rare 25, and it misses against everything even low lvls.

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Poofah
 
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Re: Over the top Dodging/misses?

Postby Poofah » December 8th, 2012, 6:49 pm

Meteor Strike has an 80% hit chance, same as Burrow/Lift-Off/etc. It's not mentioned in the tooltip, but nonetheless it's there.

You can see a full list of abilities' hit chances here. Things that say 'moderate chance to miss' are 80% hit chance; 'high chance to miss' is 50% hit chance. There are plenty of cases where the tooltip doesn't specify a higher than normal miss chance, e.g. Deep Breath and Mana Surge have an 80% hit chance but don't say so, etc.

That said, I've noticed an abnormal amount of misses myself, and many misses that don't even say they miss, just the animation going off, but no floating text. The combat log does state that it missed, however.


I'm noticing this too, in particular with the ramp-up abilities such as Arcane Blast, Frog Kiss, Sleeping Gas, Vicious Fang. The first one or two times you use it, it often misses but doesn't report a miss in floating text: the combat log records the miss though. It's only the first one or two uses, and it still builds up stacks. Screeching Gears is similar to Sleeping Gas/Frog Kiss, so it might be in this category too. Many abilities had their coding tweaked this patch, so it's possible that this category of abilities had some undocumented additional miss chance added (intentionally or otherwise).

I'm not noticing abnormally high amounts of misses in general, which makes me think it may be case-by-case for particular moves.

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Exel
 
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Re: Over the top Dodging/misses?

Postby Exel » December 8th, 2012, 7:12 pm

I think it's just the thing with epic and legendary pets. I notice a lot of misses/dodges with my low lv pets against tamer's when leveling, but that should be expected. Sometimes they get a lucky miss/dodge, sometimes I do.

On the other hand I used Minfernal for some time, and I swear Meteor was hitting under 50% when it should be 80%. I've used Lift-off and Burrow and it was hitting regularly.

Also, I kind of feel moves with 25% proc are under-performing.

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Re: Over the top Dodging/misses?

Postby Arcana » December 9th, 2012, 12:44 am

Yes, I have noticed the same thing.

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Re: Over the top Dodging/misses?

Postby Cassuide » December 9th, 2012, 8:35 am

Yeah I was leveling my darkmoon eye the other day and its laser was missing... It says in the tooltip it never misses :S no weather effects were up either...

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