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Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Jadax » June 22nd, 2013, 1:11 am

Timeless Isle Information Post - Contents

1) What is it? Why is it there?
2) Getting there?
3) Places of Interest
4) Treasure Mark NPCs
5) Treasure Mark Items
6) Treasure Map Quests
7) Wild Mobs!
8) Scenario Trainers and Pets
9) New Faction



What is it? Why is it there?

Currently on the PTR, it is not possible to get within even looking range of the island. Any attempt to fly over will teleport you back to the Jade Forest coastline as soon as you zone in.
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What is it? Why is it there?

Currently, you can fly out to the island from the Jade Forest coast, as listed above. Disconnecting just before hitting the coast will allow you a good thirty seconds of grace to fly around the island. The gap between the Jade Forest and The Isle is also narrow enough to corpse-run. Finally, you can find one of the following safe points, where you will not fatigue or get teleported away, and from there use a remote viewing skill like Far Sight or Eye of Kilrogg to survey the island.

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/way The Jade Forest 88.76 74.54

/way Pandaria 86.87 76.49

/way Pandaria 88.94 77.21


The breadcrumb quests have been added to the PTR (16/7) and seem to involve an NPC called Kairoz. He is in the game files, but Wowhead has no location for him just yet. It's possible he is not actually enabled in game, as we all know that existnce in the files doesn't mean the thing is actually there!



Places of Interest

There are flight points on the island for both Horde and Alliance. This presumably means that the island won't be scenario only, since you don't need to fly to scenarios.
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The main courtyard is large and empty, but is cornered by four towering columns. Each of these is carved to resemble one of the four god spirits of Pandaria; the ox, the crane, the serpent and the tiger. Below each is a large NPC of the respective god:
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These are confirmed to be world bosses, and their dungeon journal entries can be viewed in this news post on Wowhead:
http://ptr.wowhead.com/news=215384

The temple on the northern side of the island seems to be inaccessible by foot, as the broken bridge on the map is truly broken. The door is visible from the end of the bridge, and is an actionable item, currently labelled as Doodad_PA_Western_Ox_Temple_Door001. Perhaps this "Western Ox" is the Yaungol Fire God who has shown up living in the temple.
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Ordos the Fire God is another world boss that is only for people who have completed the Legendary cloak questline. Movesets etc are on Wowhead, here:
http://ptr.wowhead.com/news=215384

The raised area next to the temple appears empty, though it has a large courtyard area that is likely, imo, to get some content. Just another pet trainer? A rare spawn? Speculation!
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NEW ORE! I found my first Timeless Trillium Vein in this cave, but there are a few others that I have noticed since scattered across the rest of the island. Speculate on the purpose of this. Go!
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As of the update on July 2nd, there are apparently also Timeless versions of Ghost Iron Ore, as well as Fools Cap, Green Tea and Rain Poppy for herbalists.

There are also a number of little X-marks that appear on the minimap while over the island, marked with such titles as "Sunken Hozen Treasure", "Really Skunky Beer" and "Scary Ghosts and Nice Sprites". Some of the X-marks indicate people, e.g. "Master Kukuru". Each of these X-marks has a "tracking" quest associated with it, as for many other activities that can be done daily. There is also one of these tracking quests called "Avatar of Flame", which I have not found a check mark for, but may have something to do with the Yaungol Fire God on the island. All the X-marks I have found (I think) are detailed below.
Avatar of Flame tracking quests:
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32972
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32973



Treasure Mark NPCs

-- Scary Ghosts and Nice Sprites
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32961
Well, I found the nice sprites, at least. The ghosts are nowhere to be seen... perhaps they will only appear when someone is within aggro range, or some such mechanic.
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-- Zesqua
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32997
A big water elemental. That's all I know...
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-- "Tom" Bone Apart
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32962
The NPC is actually called "Tomb Bone Apart", with a shiny subtitle to clarify the pronunciation. He lives in a cave that is populated by yet more elementals, as well as some mist walker-type fellows. There is also a chest in there that does not have it's own X-mark.
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-- Master Kukuru
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32949
Ok, Master Kukuru is the most exciting NPC so far, I think. He is surrounded by tons of chests, of varying designs, which each require a "Kukuru's Kache Key" to open. Seems likely that we get one key every [day/week/month] and get to pick a chest to use it on for a chance at something nifty.
But wait! Wowhead PTR details indicate that the key is purchasable with 5 Timeless Coins. Hmmmm...
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-- Tiger
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32967
Not there, as far as I can see. Summonable?

-- Fin Longpaw
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=33124
In the PTR build on July 2nd, a tracking quest was added called "Fishing with Fin". He has also had an X-mark added to his location.
(Screenshot coming)



Treasure Mark Items

-- Sunken Hozen Treasure
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32957
This X is off the southern coast, above a sunken ship. Inside, I found... more diving helmets, and Hozen diver mobs wearing them. Make of that what you will.
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-- Ghost Pirate Treasure
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32958 ?
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32956 ?
This X is off the western coast, and is in an undersea cave, along with several spectral pirate mobs and some of the interactive "Damaged Diving Helmets".
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-- Battle of the Barnacle
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32965
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32964
Yet another sunken ship, this time is two pieces, with both friendly and hostile mobs in combat. I didn't see a chest here.
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-- Humming Crane Statue
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32971
There it is, on the large bluff just before the broken end of the bridge. Nothing else there right now, not much to say!
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-- Gleaming Treasure Chest and Rope-Bound Treasure Chest
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32969 ?
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32968 ?
Both of these are up in the air, lifted by pillars. Does that mean we'll be able to fly on the Isle? I can't see how they'll be accessible otherwise.
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-- Gleaming Treasure Satchel
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32970
This one took me a good while to spot. It's hanging off the boom of the ship moored on the eastern coast of the island. Near the giant frogs. Oh, and the ship is Alliance.
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-- Really Skunky Beer
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32959
A big barrel surrounded by Skunky Alementals. Should be fun...
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-- Turtle Shell
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32966
The "Conspicuously Empty Shell" lies here, north of the Horde flight master and surrounded by Mist Dancers. Yeah, I don't know either.
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-- Cave In
http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32960
This cave-in is... oddly enough, a literal cave-in. There is a handy rock-breaking hammer nearby, that is interactive, so the process there is fairly clear. I wonder what will be inside!
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Treasure Map Quests

On the Wowhead PTR, there are three quests listed on the Timeless Isle zone page, called "[PH] Treasure Map" 1, 2 and 3.
Edit: These quests are now titled "Rolo's Riddle". I can't find any NPC called "Rolo", though.
Each lists "Solve the riddle" as the requirement, with details as listed below:

1) http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32974
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On the isle of time are tall men four
Round and strong and nothing more
Of these brothers the shortest be
Where the trail leads to me.


2) http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32975
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Somewhere hope stands tall and proud
From its feet turn to the south
Pass beyond an ancient gate
Behind a stone pair, I await.


3) http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32976
This one I have checked over, since it's fairly obvious where it refers to (The upper lake east of the temple). Nothing to be found right now, so probably only visible when actually on the quest.
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The final step, my treasure calls
Above the place where water falls
Beneath the shade on vantage high
No path to follow but air and sky.




Wild Mobs!

-- Turtles!
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-- Cranes!
Including a pink one... no more unique Patrannache?
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-- Giant Frogs!
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Scenario Trainers and Pets

The 2nd of July brought a patch that added a huge number of pet NPCs to the game database. The ones that are linked to the Celestial Tournament are listed below with their respective trainers (as far as I can guess). The rest of the pets that were added in the update can be found being discussed in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5188

My attempt to match up the trainers with their pets:

Blingtron 4000
1) Au - Elemental - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72098
2)
3)

Wrathion - Confident
1) Dah'da - Dragonkin - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72116
2) Alex - Dragonkin - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72117
3) Cindy - Undead - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72118

Lorewalker Cho
1) Patience - Magic - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72104
2)
3) Wisdom - Flying - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72106

Chen Stormstout
1)
2)
3) Brewly - Elemental - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72103

Wise Mari
1)Carpe Diem - Aquatic - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72113
2)
3) Spirus - Magic - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72115

Shademaster Kiryn
1) Stormoen - Beast - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=71898
2)
3)

Sully "The Pickle" McLeary
1) Socks - Undead(!) - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72107
2)
3) Monte - Critter - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72109

Taran Zhu
1) Bolo - Humanoid - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72110
2)
3) Yen - Humanoid - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72112

Dr Ion Goldbloom - Confident
1) Trike - Beast - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72053
2) Screamer - Flying - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72054
3) Chaos - Magic - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72055

Xu-Fu, Cub of Xuen - Duh
1) Xu-Fu, Cub of Xuen - Beast - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72009

Chi-Chi, Hatchling of Chi-Ji

Xao, Calfling of Niuzao

Yu'La, Broodling of Yu'Lon - Duh
1) Yu'La, Broodling of Yu'Lon - Dragonkin - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72291



New Faction

There was a new faction added to the PTR game files on the 9th of July. It is called the Shaohao:
http://ptr.wowhead.com/faction=1492
There are two items currently associated with the faction, the "Path of Shaohao" and the the "Tabard of the Shaohan". The former increases mounted Timeless Isle movement by 25%, and the latter teleports the user to the Isle.
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=103680
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=103685



Please ask if there's anything you want more info on, and I'll endeavour to have a look.
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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Jadax » June 22nd, 2013, 1:19 am

No luck on the temple access, but I jumped down to check up on an X-mark called "Cave-In" and found a literal cave in. Surprise!
There is also an interactive item next to it, called "Rock-breaking Hammer".

So that seems to speak for itself. I wonder what's inside!
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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Gendou » June 22nd, 2013, 1:22 am

Thank you for your documentary dedication!
I've personally been very curious as to what the Timeless Isle will be.
It's great that you're putting in so much time into screenshotting this stuff.

From what you've uncovered, it appears to be a 'fun' isle that caters to pet tamers and other casuals.
Which is very good - after maxing out Tiller's Rep and doing Tamer dailies, there's not a lot to be done that doesn't involve the gear / mob grind. (Isle of Thunder and Isle of Giants both involve killing multiple mobs, so while they are technically 'casual' content in that they are at least partially soloable, they still involve the gear-up, fight-mobs grind)

Personally, I'm looking forward to something in the vein of Tillers / Darkmoon Faire / Pet Battles.
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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Jadax » June 22nd, 2013, 1:46 am

Turns out that there are -plenty- of NPCs on the island. I just can't see them, because they don't spawn when DCed.

I am going to play with an Eye of Kilrogg on a premade lock.

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I need to glyph this thing to fly...

Done.
Flight master!
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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Doobjanka » June 22nd, 2013, 2:16 am

This is great. I look forward to reading more of your investigative exploration!
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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Jadax » June 22nd, 2013, 2:18 am

The four corners of the central courtyard, with the god columns, and their according gods.

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My Eye of Kilrogg was about to expire, so this was a superspeedy screenshot set. Apologies!
However, it seems I can combine the eye with the DC trick to get a little extra time, so there may be better shots coming.

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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Jadax » June 22nd, 2013, 5:38 pm

Managed to get over to the lake with my Eye, close enough to get the NPC Zesqua to spawn where an X-mark says she should be:
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Level 90 Elite, hostile mob. Searching the name on the Wowhead PTR doesn't find the NPC, but it does find a daily quest with no details, called "Zesqua - Tracking Quest": http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32997

Anything else you think I should try to reach, or that you're interested in?

I have also found a point on the northern coast where I can sit and not fatigue, but it's too far for the Eye to reach anything. I might try that with Far Sight.
Edit: This works! I'll work on replacing the corpse run screenshots tonight, since I now have unlimited access to the active island, so long as I remember to refresh the spell.
Edit edit: Don't quite have coverage of the full island, but I have found a few more safe points to scout from. Still hunting.

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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Jadax » June 22nd, 2013, 11:25 pm

Updated first post with, well, everything I can find.

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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Jadax » June 23rd, 2013, 10:31 am

Updated post with Treasure Map quests from Wowhead's PTR site.

(PS. I'm feeling quite lonely in here... is anyone actually appreciating this info anymore? xD)

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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Luciandk » June 23rd, 2013, 1:54 pm

Important related information:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/328 ... News-Recap

Appears you have to go to Timeless Isle to continue the Legendary quest and earn 50x Timeless coins to progress by fighting the Celestials. Ill laugh SOOO much if its pet battling them!

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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Gromagrim » June 24th, 2013, 4:58 am

Jadax wrote:Updated post with Treasure Map quests from Wowhead's PTR site.

(PS. I'm feeling quite lonely in here... is anyone actually appreciating this info anymore? xD)
Yes. :lol:

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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Dragonwizard » June 24th, 2013, 8:49 am

Jadax wrote:Updated post with Treasure Map quests from Wowhead's PTR site.

(PS. I'm feeling quite lonely in here... is anyone actually appreciating this info anymore? xD)



Thanks a lot for doing all of this, it is definitly appreciated. Please keep the info coming. 8-)
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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Jadax » July 2nd, 2013, 5:05 pm

I think it's funny that I linked this thread on Wowhead, and it got downvoted.
I have arranged more in-depth information than they have in their own news post.

Silly.

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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Thetravellor » July 2nd, 2013, 5:32 pm

Jadax wrote:Updated post with Treasure Map quests from Wowhead's PTR site.

(PS. I'm feeling quite lonely in here... is anyone actually appreciating this info anymore? xD)


well i read the whole thread with interest - thanx for doing this

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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Gromagrim » July 3rd, 2013, 4:36 am

Jadax wrote:I think it's funny that I linked this thread on Wowhead, and it got downvoted.
I have arranged more in-depth information than they have in their own news post.

Wowhead's comments unfortunately suffer from Official Forum syndrome - there's some great posters on there but they're largely drowned out by the gestalt idiocy of internet humans :p

Thankfully WCPets is still largely an Oasis of common sense and civility :D

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Postby Dragonwizard » July 3rd, 2013, 8:33 am

Jadax wrote:I think it's funny that I linked this thread on Wowhead, and it got downvoted.
I have arranged more in-depth information than they have in their own news post.

Silly.



I upvoted you on there cause this post is definitly the best info out there so far and is exactly what should be on there for comments.
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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Jadax » July 3rd, 2013, 8:56 am

Added an update about Fin Longpaw.

July 2nd's update added in items for all the quests, it seems. While they we visible on the island, they were not actually items in the game files. Now they are.
I need to check if this means the island is accessible.

Also, other Timeless gatherables have been added for mining and herbalism, and the ore comes in rich veins.

Aha! The Timeless Isle tamers pets have been added. Including Socks for Sully!
Full list here: http://ptr.wowhead.com/search?q=date%3A ... npcs:200+1
(Some are old, Crafty and Murkimus Tyrannicus, for example)
The Pandaren Spirits in that list seem to be new; they are legendary quality and untameable.
Many of the others only have incomplete movesets and incorrect qualities (Socks, poor quality? I think not!)

And what is this?
Elayna, catchable battle pet:
Elayna is found only within snowstorms and can usually be found by luring her out with a notepad and promises of Wiki pages.
Same model as the Magical Crawdad.
http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=63724
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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Kring » July 3rd, 2013, 9:56 am

Jadax wrote:Socks, poor quality? I think not!


Socks is an undead. :-)

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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Jadax » July 3rd, 2013, 10:07 am

My attempt to match up the trainers with their pets:

Blingtron 4000
1) Au - Elemental - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72098
2)
3)

Wrathion - Confident
1) Dah'da - Dragonkin - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72116
2) Alex - Dragonkin - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72117
3) Cindy - Undead - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72118

Lorewalker Cho
1) Patience - Magic - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72104
2)
3) Wisdom - Flying - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72106

Chen Stormstout
1)
2)
3) Brewly - Elemental - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72103

Wise Mari
1)Carpe Diem - Aquatic - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72113
2)
3) Spirus - Magic - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72115

Shademaster Kiryn
1) Stormoen - Beast - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=71898
2)
3)

Sully "The Pickle" McLeary
1) Socks - Undead(!) - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72107
2)
3) Monte - Critter - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72109

Taran Zhu
1) Bolo - Humanoid - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72110
2)
3) Yen - Humanoid - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72112

Dr Ion Goldbloom - Confident
1) Trike - Beast - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72053
2) Screamer - Flying - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72054
3) Chaos - Magic - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72055

Xu-Fu, Cub of Xuen - Duh
1) Xu-Fu, Cub of Xuen - Beast - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72009

Chi-Chi, Hatchling of Chi-Ji

Xao, Calfling of Niuzao

Yu'La, Broodling of Yu'Lon - Duh
1) Yu'La, Broodling of Yu'Lon - Dragonkin - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=72291

That's all I have so far :P
It looks like each trainer's pets may be roughly sequential in NPCID, which would make things simpler if there weren't a whole lot missing...

All the Spirit Tamers' pets have been re-added, which confused me as I didn't recognise their names off hand.

A number of the new pets are either companion only, and these all have IDs that are below 70000, and are listed below:

The fact that these all have Honorifics cannot be a coincidence, and there is one of each pet family!
Mrs. Skitters - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65826
Mr. Growls - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65825
Madam Flapsalot - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65827
Ms. Croaker - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65829
Lady Burninator - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65830
Boomy Jr. - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65832
Dr. Stinky - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65834
Sir Buckethead - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65828
Lord Landslide - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65831
Miss Mystical - http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65833

Finally, there are three more pets that I cannot find a "home" for:

1) Muffin - Beast
Apparently the same as the other trainers' pets listed above, but with a low NPC ID, and no leftover trainers to assign him to. Maybe a pet that belongs to a trainer on the Timeless Isle outside of the scenario? Interestingly uses the same model as the Perky Pug.
There is an NPC called Muffin on Live servers. He is a dog that wanders about in the Shrine of Two Moons, although he does not use the Perky Pug model, and is currently classified as a Humanoid. I think it is likely that this is the same NPC updated to be categorised correctly.
http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=65344

2) Elayna - Aquatic
The only apparently catchable pet included in the July 2nd update, with the flavor text: "Elayna is found only within snowstorms and can usually be found by luring her out with a notepad and promises of Wiki pages." Shares a model with the Magical Crawdad.
http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=63724

3) Angara - Undead
An elite pet, non-catchable. Similar to Doopy in Icecrown, perhaps? The model is a bear and the quality is currently poor, whereas Doopy is Legendary. Again, the NPC ID is too low to associate it with the scenario trainers, and the "Elite" status rules it out anyway.
http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=71816
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Re: Timeless Isle Information Thread

Postby Gromagrim » July 3rd, 2013, 10:10 am

Why is Xao a 'Calfling'? Surely bovine juvenilles already have a word - Calf :p

It's not like Xu Fu is the 'Cubling' of Xuen :p

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