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5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Stencil » February 20th, 2014, 7:37 am

Jerebear wrote:I've been able to trim up Sludgy a bit in the Thundering Spirit fight. If you use the Sen'jin Fetish with Flame Breath and Rot, sludgy will always go down in 4 rounds of Flame Breath as it is a 100% hit chance and always has enough damage to kill Sludgy. Rot is for the unlikely scenario that your undead round extends into the first round of Darnak.

Very cool to see an RNG proof strat for this boss; nice work! Worth noting that Voodoo Figurine has the same ability set as the Sen'jin Fetish and should also always kill Sludgy with 4 Flame Breaths. Sen'jin Fetish is the better option (more power and health) but I think more people have the Voodoo Figurine.

That said, I've been pleasantly surprised at how reliable, and fast, the Snail/Zeppelin strategy has turned out to be. I don't know if it helps that I'm using an H/P Shimmershell Snail (1790/305/195), which is the best breed for the job, but I averaged just under 18 rounds per kill.
17 16 18 19 2+16 18 2+17 19 2+20 18 17 19 2+16 2+16 18 17 16 18 16 16 == 17.85

There was one time it failed that isn't represented in that data set but it was actually because I killed him with a missile and not Explode. I should have passed and let his Stone Rush self damage push him into Explode range, but instead I missiled (and it might have crit too) and so the carry pet didn't level.

The times I've tried the Fetish strat my kills were in the mid 20's (28 26 24) which is a pretty big jump. That said, its still a cool strat and should replace the cottontail/dragonling strat in compendium IMO.

Jerebear wrote:I use Chi-Chi (wild magic + feign), infected squirrel (creeping fungus + stampede), and blighted squirrel (wood chipper + stampede). Nitun goes down fast due to wild magic buffing both stampede and the dots. Feign gives an easy swap without getting the squirrel pounded.

Interesting combo; you're right about how hard things were ticking. That wild magic + feign trick with is pretty slick; I'm going to have to remember that one. For giggles I've killed Nitun a few times now with Chi-Chi and zandalari (black claw + hunting party); 700 point ticks against a legendary make me lol :D

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Stencil » February 20th, 2014, 8:25 am

Rendigar wrote:
Haevlyn wrote:This seems like a great guide, but why don't you include the two "Classic" tamers that also reward bags?

I would not list a strategy for them because any pair of 20-somethings can beat them - if you have gotten this far I know you can beat them with 2 pets if you want the XP from the fight and not just the bag.

Heh, a P/P Yellow-Bellied Bullfrog can actually solo Lydia Accoste. I've keep a couple of level 70ish alts I don't really care about parked at those two; they're gaining XP one daily at a time. If I had to travel to those tamers, I'd probably never bother with them either.

Haevlyn: I'll throw these out as "best possible" teams for those bosses if that's what you were looking for. They are level 1 carry pet friendly and fast.

Lydia Accoste - Location: Deadwind Pass (40,76)
~12 rounds
vs Jack
- Tail Slap until Jack dies (2 hits)
vs Bishibosh
- Beaver Dam > swap to Carry pet > swap to Bullfrog
- Tongue Lash until Bishibosh dies
- Heal or put up Swarm of Flies during Bishibosh's bonus round
vs Nightstalker
- Tongue Lash until dead


Stone Cold Trixxi - Location: Winterspring (65, 64)
~7 rounds
vs Tinygos
- Crush until dead
vs Frostmaw
- Explode
- Minefield
- Zap until dead[/list]
vs Blizzy
- Explode

EDIT - after playing with some different options I decided that a double explode team works very nicely for Trixxi.

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Darkwarrior42 » March 16th, 2014, 5:32 pm

Stencil wrote:Darkwarrior42 - I took a look at your pet collection and based off what you have leveled I'd say you should just use:
1 - Unborn Val'kyr (122 Shadow Slash, Doom, Unholy Ascension)
2 - Fossilized Hatchling (1-- Claw, doesn't matter)
3 - Sunreaver Micro-Sentry (122 Laser, Haywire, Supercharge)


Sorry about taking so very long to get back to this.... I'll give this a try tonight, though amusingly the team I posted last time has yet to lose; as far as I can tell it's RNG proof, but does require a bit more micro-managing than most strategies I see posted.

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Cryoseism » March 24th, 2014, 8:01 am

Been working on my own, mostly becuse I like alot of info on a xl spreadsheet and have made perhaps way to many pet team ideas.

but here is a example of what I am trying to track:

VS LOCATION LVL THEIR PET TYPE WHAT TO WATCH FOR MY PET TYPE SKILLS NOTES:

Courageous Yon Kun-Lai Summit 25 Piqua Flying Lift-Off Anubisath Idol Humanoid Demolish, Sandstorm, Deflection Use Sandstorm and Demolish to burn down his pets, you can level two Carry Pets of any level if done right.
25 Lapin Critter Burrow Carry Pet Swap in Carry pets durin Piqua's Stampeed round, when you come back out of switch should be using
25 Bleat Beast Chew Carry Pet Sandstorm for the second time. Use Deflection for Lift-off, Burrow, and the round after Chew (Chew-Stampeede)


Any ideas on a way to import to here alot of info from a xl without it looking like above or having major edits?

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Jerebear » March 24th, 2014, 4:48 pm

I highlight the cells I want to display, copy/paste into mspaint and host on an image site. Not the best, but no table formats available on this site yet.
Carry Pet Experience Reference Guide:
http://www.warcraftpets.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8829

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Cat666 » May 6th, 2014, 4:30 am

I know it's not going to be 100% accurate but does anyone have a list of trainers and the best sort of carry pet to use?

For example Moruk you can use to get a level 1 pet to level 12, but you can't with all of them. Some trainers require a pet with 500+ HP but others need even less, dependant on type. Some fights with a lot of AOE require a higher carry pet etc.

Ta

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Pendabear » May 22nd, 2014, 10:18 pm

This guide lists that right on it, when he says "Carry Pet" it's any pet, when it lists "Carry pet (500+ health)" or such you change for that one. Pretty detailed, just read through again :)

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Mykro9 » May 26th, 2014, 3:22 am

This is a wonderful guide, and I have modified some of my teams to use your strats.

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Jhane » June 16th, 2014, 2:36 pm

Fantastic guide. I learned a lot of new tricks and improved the speed of almost all the tamer fights by following your advice and the advice of the other posters. Thanks!

I do have a few alternatives and/or improvements for some of the fights. I'll start with Hyuna of the Shrines - instead of Emerald Proto-Whelp, I suggest using a Nether Faerie Dragon. Shamelessly copy-pasting from your excellent overview:

Hyuna of the Shrines - Location: Jade Forest (48, 54)
Team 1: 14 rounds

1: Nether Faerie Dragon [P/P] (2,1,1)
2: Carry pet
3: Yellow Moth [P/P] (2,1,2)

vs Skyshaper

- Moonfire > Arcane Blast x2

vs Fangor

- Arcane Blast > Dodge > Arcane Blast x2

vs Dor the Wall

- Arcane Blast, Dragon usually dies due to Headbutt. If not, hard swap.
- Switch to carry pet > switch to Yellow Moth
- Cocoon Strike when Headbutt is up, Moth Dust when up, Alpha Strike otherwise

Pitfalls: Dragon may die too early if Skyshaper or Fangor crits. Will happen intermittenly. Missing on Moth Dust will sometimes extend the fight a few rounds, but no risk involved.

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Jhane » June 18th, 2014, 10:20 am

Courageous Yon - Location: Kun-Lai Summit (35, 73)
Team 1: 13-14 rounds

1: Nether Faerie Dragon [P/P] (2,1,1)
2: Pet Bombling (1,2,2)
3: Carry pet (doesn't do anything, can be lvl 1)

vs Piqua

- Moonfire > Dodge > Arcane Blast x 3, Piqua dies

vs Lapin

- Arcane Blast > Dodge > Arcane Blast x 2, Lapin dies

vs Bleat

- Arcane Blast until dragon dies (1-2 turns)
- Swap in Pet Bombling.
- Zap or Toxic Smoke until you can safely do Explode for 650 dmg. (1-2 turns).

Pitfalls: Be aware of Bleats 248 heal, it will move first. If you crit against Piqua, Dodge won't be off CD before you need it again on Lapin, usually means a restart if that happens.

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Re: (4) No-No - Lucky Yi

Postby Treebot » June 20th, 2014, 6:20 am

Rendigar wrote:Aki the Chosen - Location: Vale of Eternal Blossoms (31, 74)
Team 1: 10 rounds
    1: Zandalari Kneebiter [4-P/P] (1,2,1 )
    2: :!: Clockwork Gnome [-] (1,1,1)
    3: Carry pet (needs 500+ health)
    Alt1: Zandalari Anklerender [14-P/P] (1,1,2), Zandalari Toeknibbler [4-P/P] (1,1,2)
vs Chirrup
    - Bite > chain cast Leap until Chirrup dies (Leap gives a speed buff needed for Stormlash)
vs Stormlash
    - Black Claw > Zandalari raptor dies to Call Lightning
    - Switch to Clockwork Gnome > Build Turret > switch to carry pet > switch to Clockwork Gnome
vs Whiskers
    - Metal Fist unless you can use Build Turret
Note: if Bite crits twice it kills Chirrup, so using more than one is a bad choice, you must have the Leap speed buff
    Turret sometimes kills Stormlash in 1 volley but it is safest to expect carry pet to get hit once

On Aki here, you say to Build Turret, switch to carry, switch to Clockwork vs Stormlash. I feel like I'm either doing it wrong, or this isn't correct. The carry pet doesn't earn XP at the end of the fight because it doesn't attack... so what exactly is supposed to happen here?

There are a few other fights with an active switch like this as well, I believe Nishi is one of them but I'd have to go out and confirm.

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Re: (4) No-No - Lucky Yi

Postby Kring » June 20th, 2014, 7:02 am

Treebot wrote:On Aki here, you say to Build Turret, switch to carry, switch to Clockwork vs Stormlash. I feel like I'm either doing it wrong, or this isn't correct. The carry pet doesn't earn XP at the end of the fight because it doesn't attack... so what exactly is supposed to happen here?


The carry pet does earn XP. But Aki is bugged and the XP and level gained are not written to the console. Don't worry, the XP is perfectly gained by your pet.

Treebot wrote:There are a few other fights with an active switch like this as well, I believe Nishi is one of them but I'd have to go out and confirm.


A carry pet doesn't have to attack to gain XP, it only has to be the active pet for one round. Back to back swapping is ok. (Don't swap the pet in the first round if your carry pet is in slot 1 because swapping in the first round means it wasn't the active pet in that round.)

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Treebot » June 20th, 2014, 7:34 am

Fantastic, thanks for the heads up!

I guess whenever I battled Aki, my carry pet wasn't within level range, so I never noticed the XP gain.

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Felidori » July 4th, 2014, 12:52 pm

Couple of pet links in the main post aren't working:

Zandalari Toenibbler: http://www.warcraftpets.com/wow-pets/be ... oenibbler/
Nether Faerie Dragon: http://www.warcraftpets.com/wow-pets/dr ... ie-dragon/

Thanks for the amazing guide!

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Re: 5.4 Guide to Master Tamer (levelling) + Beasts of Fable

Postby Jhane » July 22nd, 2014, 8:26 am

Alternative to:
Flowing Pandaren Spirit - Location: Dread Wastes (61, 87) 15 rounds

1: Wildhammer Gryphon Hatchling [4-P/P] (1,2,2)
2: Carry pet (needs 700+ health, non-elemental type)
3: Chrominius [-] (1,1,2)

vs Marley

- Peck x2 > Lift Off > Peck if Lift Off misses

vs Tiptoe

- Peck > Adrenaline Rush > Peck until Tiptoe dies

vs Pandaren Water Spirit

- Peck x 3 > Adrenaline Rush (Careful not to kill Spirit. Die of Geyser + Whirlpool)
- Switch to carry pet > switch to Chrominius
- Surge of Power

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